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« on: December 05, 2009, 04:02:10 pm »

Please don't post any fanboyism here. I just want your opinion on how much skill CoD games actually take...

In my opinion it's just whoever sees who first is dead. Accurately plays a little part in this game. It's hard to miss someone who is right in front of you because of the recoil. Also CoD is very noob friendly. Anyone could pick up and buy this game and be good at it...Other games it takes awhile to be good.

In games like MOHH2 ,socom, killzone 2,accuracy really matters because it takes just about a whole clip to kill someone. It takes skill to use certain guns in these games, but in CoD it's easy to use any gun. You just aim through your sights and shoot.

So, i think CoD takes about 15% skill/100
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2009, 05:35:12 pm »

CoD is 90% strategy. The other 10% is how good you are in those 1v1 situations, which i usually win almost all the time, so IMO, yes CoD DOES take skill to some extent. From 1-20 yards away, who ever sees the other person first does usually win the battle, but from more than 20 yards you can really tell whos the good player and the bad player. And i think sniping in CoD is one of the most skillful things in any game. The sniping exactly isnt what makes it so tough, but the fact that you are up against automatic weapons does. And isnt strategy considered skill?
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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2009, 08:08:58 pm »

CoD is 90% strategy. The other 10% is how good you are in those 1v1 situations, which i usually win almost all the time, so IMO, yes CoD DOES take skill to some extent. From 1-20 yards away, who ever sees the other person first does usually win the battle, but from more than 20 yards you can really tell whos the good player and the bad player. And i think sniping in CoD is one of the most skillful things in any game. The sniping exactly isnt what makes it so tough, but the fact that you are up against automatic weapons does. And isnt strategy considered skill?

^That, and I also agree with KZF simply because of the Assault Rifles. It all depends on what you're using. If you're good with a sniper, you're skilled. If you're good with a Scar... you're good with a Scar, everyone is. The rifles are overpowered/have no recoil so the game is unbalanced. People would argue "you can use it too, so it is balanced". No. If you can outsnipe someone with an AR 90% of the time, you're skilled.

I'm going off topic ranting about ARs.....

There's skill because, like Holy said, of strategy, mind games, knowing when to go prone, etc. There IS a fine line between a good player and an average player. (I'm not including random stupid noobs.)

An average player would get in a gun fight, then back off and sit there and wait for the skilled player to flank around them and kill them somehow, I mean, there really isn't a good ranking system other than:

Good
Average
Bad

There's no "Pro", some people will say there is, but there really isn't. Just cocky people who think they're better than everyone.

I would honestly say there is a good balance between the above 3 classes, too.

TL;DR - Yes, there is skill, but it's hard to see through the Assault Rifles sometimes. (I know, it wasn't even very long but some people.....)


Edit: ALSO, the above describes exactly why I beleive WaW took more skill than CoD4, and MW2.
If you were really good at sniping in that game, you were amazing because of the stupid Mp40 noobs that were 'impossible' to counter. Some people will say WaW took no skill because of the Mp40, but I say it took the most because of the Mp40. Anyone not using it was high above the rest.
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2009, 08:29:35 pm »

KZF, a good player like you will be good eventually in this game.  An average player like me has to play very smart as Holy suggested just to stay near even.  I don't find the AR's improve my game other than to let me stay at distance where possible.  With either PS3 or 360 you willl find friends to help.
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« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2009, 05:10:41 pm »

KZF, a good player like you will be good eventually in this game.  An average player like me has to play very smart as Holy suggested just to stay near even.  I don't find the AR's improve my game other than to let me stay at distance where possible.  With either PS3 or 360 you willl find friends to help.

I'm already good at the game. (1.99) My issue is that CoD is lived up to be a arcade style shooter, and just wish they made it a bit more challenging. Other than that i like the game.  Afro
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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2009, 11:43:47 pm »

In, CoD it is ridiculously easy to kill people. As such, the test of skill does not come from how well you can kill, but rather how well you can survive. Any random noob can get kills but only the pros know how to avoid death.
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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2009, 07:06:05 pm »

nah it takes cheapness
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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2009, 09:03:28 pm »

In, CoD it is ridiculously easy to kill people. As such, the test of skill does not come from how well you can kill, but rather how well you can survive. Any random noob can get kills but only the pros know how to avoid death.

I don't think so, that implies that K/DR means something. It doesn't. "Avoiding death" = camping no matter how you put it.
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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2009, 10:42:31 pm »

No it doesn't. The easiest way to avoid death is by killing people before they kill you. You can do that however you wantd.

KDR is a quick representation of someones skill. It may not always be accurate but it gives a good indication. A noob will not have a 4.0 KDR with a few thousand kills. A pro will not have a 1.5 KDR with a few thousand kills.

It is not the defining factor of someones skill level, just a quick reference.
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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2009, 08:41:57 am »

I would have to say it does take a little skill in this game. How much skill is still up to the person who is playing it.As far as killing someone, yes it much easier in this game then say MOHH2. I notice that the first time I played it. But to no-scope and kill someone in COD takes skill. MOH, to noscope and kill someone it takes a little skill. All in All if you are comparing the two games, in my opinion it takes more skill in MOH than MW2.Reflex. But that is based on killing....  Afro
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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2009, 09:49:48 am »

cod=whoever shoots first.........mohh2 =you have a chance
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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2009, 10:12:49 am »

It does not take much skill but those of you that say who ever shoots first wins are wrong I get shot at first all the time and end up killing the three ppl shooting me
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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2009, 02:42:54 pm »

I would have to say it does take a little skill in this game. How much skill is still up to the person who is playing it.As far as killing someone, yes it much easier in this game then say MOHH2. I notice that the first time I played it. But to no-scope and kill someone in COD takes skill. MOH, to noscope and kill someone it takes a little skill. All in All if you are comparing the two games, in my opinion it takes more skill in MOH than MW2.Reflex. But that is based on killing....  Afro
No scoping is 80% luck, though thats a whole other story.
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« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2009, 05:12:01 pm »

I would have to say it does take a little skill in this game. How much skill is still up to the person who is playing it.As far as killing someone, yes it much easier in this game then say MOHH2. I notice that the first time I played it. But to no-scope and kill someone in COD takes skill. MOH, to noscope and kill someone it takes a little skill. All in All if you are comparing the two games, in my opinion it takes more skill in MOH than MW2.Reflex. But that is based on killing....  Afro
No scoping is 80% luck, though thats a whole other story.

Thanks for saying that for me Holy, I was just about to. lol,

And Juggernaut, MW2 Reflex? We're not talking about Wii games here, that's just lowering the bar too much. ._.
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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2009, 09:46:51 pm »

Nope, IMO.

Anyway you put it, camping doesn't take skill, and in CoD, 95% of the games I'm in are filled with campers. It doesn't take skill to sit in a corner and spray at someone's feet (which is convient in CoD4 and MW2, since Infinity Ward fails at hit detection). In Halo 3, MoH, and a lot of other FPS games, you won't be rewarded with camping because it hardly ever helps you. Even if you do get 1 burst with a BR before the guy sees you, you still need skill to finish off the kill. In CoD, one burst is enough to do them in.  Angry

Although it is more difficult to stay alive than in, say, MoH, it still is far from a challenge. Any game I want (for the most part) I can't get 0 deaths; simply sit in a remote corner with UAV Jammer/Cold Blooded, and wait. It's that simple.

Basically, although CoD can be VERY fun at times, and they must be doing something right (due to success), it doesn't take much skill to have success at CoD. ESPECIALLY when comparing it to Halo, MoH, Socom, etc.
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