jd111
WU Master
   
Karma: 112
Offline
Clan: OG, Dead Rabbits
PSN: the_jd111
Posts: 8781
|
 |
« on: July 13, 2010, 01:40:57 pm » |
|
|
PSN: The_jd111
|
|
|
|
|
OhioLawyer
Administrator
WU Master
Karma: 9003
Offline
Clan: The Fatal Five
Posts: 8207
Romans 5:8
|
 |
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2010, 09:14:10 pm » |
|
yeah he was a great owner IMO. I loved his attitude toward capitalism. It has been a tough week for the yanks losing Shepherd and the Boss in the same week.
|
Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati
|
|
|
|
|
ironmaidenb1
WU Combatant
 
Karma: 0
Offline
Posts: 784
COD FC 0938-6852-6980
|
 |
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2010, 05:50:01 am » |
|
It would be hypocritical of me to Rip on George Steinbrenner for making baseball " Less " Competitive by " Buying " an All - Star Team Every Year without acknowledging that my Beloved Red Wing's owner Mike Illitch was guilty of it once in a while in the past as well. When your team is just so loaded with talent and the payroll is the GDP of a small 3rd world country, it is easy to look the other way when you're winning championships all the time.
Hopefully MLB will now have the guts to make some rule changes and set a strict cap limit for All Teams and say screw the luxury tax ( if they still have one, I haven't kept up on all the rules lately ) so that it is a more level playing field for all teams.
Even though I am still mad at Steinbrenner for luring Drew Hensen ( an emerging talent at quarterback at Michigan and High School Baseball Phenom ) to play in the Yankees Farm System just when he was hitting his stride in College ( Steinbrenner was a big Ohio State Fan ), I forgive him because that gave Tom Brady more playing time and look where he is today. So everything happens for a reason.
|
|
|
|
|
OhioLawyer
Administrator
WU Master
Karma: 9003
Offline
Clan: The Fatal Five
Posts: 8207
Romans 5:8
|
 |
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2010, 12:12:00 pm » |
|
but if you look at steinbrenner's track record, he attempted to buy championships in the 70s and 80s and flopped. While he was always a fan of free agency, it wasn't until his homegrown boys came up through the farm system in the 90s that they yankees started their dynasty. So while they never would have been able to keep those teams together because of spending, and steinbrenner never lost that thirst for big free agents, the core of his dynasty was homegrown kids. He basically proved the value of a good farm system along side active free agency is the only true way to build a dynasty.
|
Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati
|
|
|
|
the KR3AT3R
Guest
|
 |
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2010, 12:22:02 pm » |
|
I miss the Braves pitching lineup in the 90's. 
|
|
|
|
|
OhioLawyer
Administrator
WU Master
Karma: 9003
Offline
Clan: The Fatal Five
Posts: 8207
Romans 5:8
|
 |
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2010, 12:36:40 pm » |
|
Maddux Glavine Smoltz Avery That was pretty beast. And then they also had Mark Wohlers before he had a mental meltdown he was pretty good too. Too bad no one remembers him for when he was good. He was Rick Ankiel before there was a Rick Ankiel. 
|
Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati
|
|
|
|
the KR3AT3R
Guest
|
 |
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2010, 12:43:37 pm » |
|
Heah, he turned out to be a wack job.  Those names you mentioned would be so much more huge now days.
|
|
|
|
|
jd111
WU Master
   
Karma: 112
Offline
Clan: OG, Dead Rabbits
PSN: the_jd111
Posts: 8781
|
 |
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2010, 01:01:01 pm » |
|
but if you look at steinbrenner's track record, he attempted to buy championships in the 70s and 80s and flopped. While he was always a fan of free agency, it wasn't until his homegrown boys came up through the farm system in the 90s that they yankees started their dynasty. So while they never would have been able to keep those teams together because of spending, and steinbrenner never lost that thirst for big free agents, the core of his dynasty was homegrown kids. He basically proved the value of a good farm system along side active free agency is the only true way to build a dynasty.
You may find this hard to believe, but Steinbrenner got that 'buying championships' mentality from Ewing Kauffman- former (deceased) owner of the Royals. Kauffman was the first to seek out the big-name free agents, and that was the beginning of the large payrolls we see today. Now that EK is gone, however, the Royals find themselves victim of what he (unintentionally) started Decades ago.
|
PSN: The_jd111
|
|
|
OhioLawyer
Administrator
WU Master
Karma: 9003
Offline
Clan: The Fatal Five
Posts: 8207
Romans 5:8
|
 |
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2010, 01:06:06 pm » |
|
yeah, but with true free agency taking place after the supreme court case in 1971, and steinbrenner taking over in 73, that was close enough proximity that he generally gets more notariety for it. After all, he threw more money at it than anyone, and the whole Reggie Jackson ordeal made "buying championships" more nationally known.
|
Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati
|
|
|
|
the KR3AT3R
Guest
|
 |
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2010, 01:06:30 pm » |
|
Did you hear the homage paid to him from Boston's owner. That was pretty respectable considering their history.
|
|
|
|
|
OhioLawyer
Administrator
WU Master
Karma: 9003
Offline
Clan: The Fatal Five
Posts: 8207
Romans 5:8
|
Although Curt Flood lost his case 5-3, decided in 1972, the change had been made and free agency was upon baseball at that point. Many people may not have read that case (it is fascinating) so I'll post it here. Flood v. Kuhn (407 U.S. 258) http://supreme.justia.com/us/407/258/case.htmlI hope that is accurate because the supreme court website doesn't go back that far and I use lexis nexis, which you wouldn't be able to see.
|
Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati
|
|
|
|
|
|