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« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2011, 10:13:37 am » |
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Players now are completely different from players back then. Pitchers are a lot stronger and throw faster now and the fields have changed. I may be mistaken in that there were a lot less game back then as we'll. I agree that he's considered more as a slugger, but look at other slugger's length of careers as of recent: Big Papi, Ramirez, Sosa, Chipper Jones, Frank Thomas, etc... The majority of their careers are around 15 years or so.
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« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2011, 10:38:03 am » |
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Pujols is 31 now, so I give him 5 years of this current production and that's being pessimistic. 5 years of 8 WAR a season translates to 200 million in value. Should he sign a 10 year deal, he would need to have 20 WAR over a 5 year span or 4 WAR a season. I don't see him ever producing less than 4 WAR a season. You could cut his production in half and he would still be able to produce a 4 WAR.
Simple Version: Even if his production does drop off in the latter part of his career, what he does for the next 5 years more than makes up for it.
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« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2011, 11:50:54 am » |
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Agree. I don't think he's even close to being washed up, but considering the amount of games played per season including post season, along with wear and tear, on/off field drama, and team conditions, I just couldn't sign him for more than 8. BUT in signing an 8 year contract should there be no signs of slowing down in the 6th-7th year then an extension would be welcomed with open arms.
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« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2011, 11:58:49 am » |
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He wouldn't accept that, he wants the guaranteed money. Second, if they don't offer him a 9th or 10th year, the annual salary would jump up to 35 million.
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« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2011, 12:05:22 pm » |
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I know he wouldn't accept that and that's why NY, BOS, or CHI may have a good chance in getting him. Disposable income is a beautiful thing.
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« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2011, 12:17:45 pm » |
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Actually, the season when Ruth played was 154 games. Only 8 fewer than now. And when Aaron played the season was 162 just like now. Length of season had little to do with longevity. And how hard a pitcher throws and/or how good they are has little to no bearing on the health of an opposing hitter. The field is the same (except the mound is 2 inches higher). So I don't see a problem comparing longevity then and now. If anything, the players then had LESS access to medical and athletic training and the rigors of travel were MORE difficult then (train rides were notoriously hard).
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« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2011, 12:58:02 pm » |
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The reason I threw in the comparison of pitchers is because now (studies show), the ball is harder to hit because of the higher velocity and various methods, and when a player is less likely to have a good on base percentage, slugging percentage, HR's, RBI's, etc...then they're more apt to be traded or moved down the roster before their contract is up. If this should happen when Puljos is "older" then its a likely scenario. I also stand corrected with the contrast between times. 
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« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2011, 01:23:52 pm » |
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Pujols is an OBP machine. He draws a ton of walks, has incredibly quick hands and hits the ball so hard that his OBP won't fall much. Even if it does, he is still above average.
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« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2011, 01:30:43 pm » |
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Well, I guess we'll have to wait 10 years to find out, huh? 
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« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2011, 02:34:35 pm » |
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I'm just waiting because I picked up a signed mini helmet of Pujols in his rookie year for like $30 (COA and serial numbered). I'm hoping it goes up in value. 
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