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An in depth analysis of why Weed should not be legalized

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« Reply #135 on: August 11, 2012, 04:16:28 pm »

The cost of the death penalty is expensive because we are forced to go through an extremely long trial process. For example, James Holmes could appeal a few thousand times and remain alive for years without being killed, when really, he shouldn't be given that opportunity. We are giving rights to people who don't deserve rights which makes the cost of the death penalty extremely high.

So let's use my favourite example. Paul Bernardo is in jail right now, and he's not getting out. He's been through the trial process. Here's an idea, instead of letting him sit there, let's get rid of him, no trial, no nothing. Gone.
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« Reply #136 on: August 11, 2012, 04:16:40 pm »

I'm just thinking out loud here, but I could totally envision the cartels becoming the modern mafia if its legalized. Like, they will strong arm businesses and have them pay "security fees" so that nothing "bad"happens to them. Ya know?
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« Reply #137 on: August 11, 2012, 04:20:31 pm »

The cost of the death penalty is expensive because we are forced to go through an extremely long trial process. For example, James Holmes could appeal a few thousand times and remain alive for years without being killed, when really, he shouldn't be given that opportunity. We are giving rights to people who don't deserve rights which makes the cost of the death penalty extremely high.

So let's use my favourite example. Paul Bernardo is in jail right now, and he's not getting out. He's been through the trial process. Here's an idea, instead of letting him sit there, let's get rid of him, no trial, no nothing. Gone.
i know why the death penalty is expensive, thank you very much. but please stop acting like you're the god of ethics saying that people don't deserve rights and it's obvious that they should be given the death penalty. gg black and white world.
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« Reply #138 on: August 11, 2012, 04:22:26 pm »

Do the people Bernardo viciously raped and killed currently have rights? Nope.
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« Reply #139 on: August 11, 2012, 04:24:54 pm »

I don't have much to add but I doubt these cartel guys are scared of death. Death isn't really a "harsh" punishment for them. Look at the kinds of things they do to each other. I think that if anything, they pray that the state kills them in a more humane way.
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« Reply #140 on: August 11, 2012, 04:25:33 pm »

ok 1) this is too off-topic
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« Reply #141 on: August 11, 2012, 04:27:24 pm »

I don't have much to add but I doubt these cartel guys are scared of death. Death isn't really a "harsh" punishment for them. Look at the kinds of things they do to each other. I think that if anything, they pray that the state kills them in a more humane way.

Not saying we go directly after the cartels, I'm saying we go after the users. If the users stop, the cartels stop, but the users don't actually care about stopping the cartels, they just want their fix.
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« Reply #142 on: August 11, 2012, 04:32:57 pm »

I think that's where the big divide is though. I guess a growing number of people these days just aren't agreeing that smoking a harmless plant warrants a jail sentence.
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« Reply #143 on: August 11, 2012, 04:34:05 pm »

It's clearly not harmless, cartels are creating a ton of issues.
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« Reply #144 on: August 11, 2012, 05:08:58 pm »

You placed so much emphasis on wanting to stop cartels, but when I raised a possible solution, you're suddenly okay with cartels. You seriously fail to see the irony in this? You don't give a flying **** about the cartels, and if you did, you would have never purchased any weed products, since you're thereby supporting the industry they dominate. You just want to be able to smoke weed in peace, which is a totally separate argument.

Stop hiding your true beliefs on a subject with something you don't actually care about to make yourself seem like a better person.

there are better solutions than the crappy one you proposed, dumbass.
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« Reply #145 on: August 11, 2012, 05:26:10 pm »

You placed so much emphasis on wanting to stop cartels, but when I raised a possible solution, you're suddenly okay with cartels. You seriously fail to see the irony in this? You don't give a flying **** about the cartels, and if you did, you would have never purchased any weed products, since you're thereby supporting the industry they dominate. You just want to be able to smoke weed in peace, which is a totally separate argument.

Stop hiding your true beliefs on a subject with something you don't actually care about to make yourself seem like a better person.

there are better solutions than the ****ty one you proposed, dumbass.

Solid response.
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between the 3 of them or how ever many where there one of them could of got the gun and pointed it at him and told him to gtfo. Its that simple he would of left no one raped murdered lives saved so on and so forth daugher be eating her captain crunch the next morning
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« Reply #146 on: August 11, 2012, 05:28:17 pm »

And I can't believe that a person as competent as you would assume that I thought it was a bad thing.

In the context you gave it, it was what you implied.  Let's not lie to ourselves.

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I gave no such notion and in fact, don't think the therapy is a "cure", myself.

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I only stated that because you wanted to hault Keihan's conspiracy theory.  

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Also, for the sake of conversation, define "crazy", please.

Dictionaries exist for a reason.  Anyway, "not sane".

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Who is in charge of defining the therapy as "crazy" and what does it mean?

In the case of your example, anyone who has ever heard of the scientific method or taken a freshmen biology course would define "crazy" as this dude's therapy.
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« Reply #147 on: August 11, 2012, 05:29:06 pm »

You placed so much emphasis on wanting to stop cartels, but when I raised a possible solution, you're suddenly okay with cartels. You seriously fail to see the irony in this? You don't give a flying **** about the cartels, and if you did, you would have never purchased any weed products, since you're thereby supporting the industry they dominate. You just want to be able to smoke weed in peace, which is a totally separate argument.

Stop hiding your true beliefs on a subject with something you don't actually care about to make yourself seem like a better person.

there are better solutions than the ****ty one you proposed, dumbass.

Solid response.

Such as?
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« Reply #148 on: August 11, 2012, 05:41:29 pm »

And I can't believe that a person as competent as you would assume that I thought it was a bad thing.

In the context you gave it, it was what you implied.  Let's not lie to ourselves.

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I gave no such notion and in fact, don't think the therapy is a "cure", myself.

Swell.

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I only stated that because you wanted to hault Keihan's conspiracy theory.  

... By presenting another?

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Also, for the sake of conversation, define "crazy", please.

Dictionaries exist for a reason.  Anyway, "not sane".

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Who is in charge of defining the therapy as "crazy" and what does it mean?

In the case of your example, anyone who has ever heard of the scientific method or taken a freshmen biology course would define "crazy" as this dude's therapy.

How cute, you pointlessly disected my post.

Anyway, you assumed something and I'm telling you that you're wrong, Dr. Phil.

Also, id call the use of radiation less sane than consuming a boatload of veggies and nutritious food.
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« Reply #149 on: August 11, 2012, 05:54:01 pm »

You placed so much emphasis on wanting to stop cartels, but when I raised a possible solution, you're suddenly okay with cartels. You seriously fail to see the irony in this? You don't give a flying **** about the cartels, and if you did, you would have never purchased any weed products, since you're thereby supporting the industry they dominate. You just want to be able to smoke weed in peace, which is a totally separate argument.

Stop hiding your true beliefs on a subject with something you don't actually care about to make yourself seem like a better person.

there are better solutions than the ****ty one you proposed, dumbass.

Solid response.

Such as?

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you're so entrenched in your **** stupid viewpoint it's a waste of time to try.

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