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An in depth analysis of why Weed should not be legalized

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« Reply #150 on: August 11, 2012, 06:00:22 pm »

I'm waiting.
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« Reply #151 on: August 11, 2012, 06:13:21 pm »

we've been over this you **** inbred pile of redundant protoplasm.

1. Legalize MJ
2. Takes away majority of US demand for MJ
3. Cartels lose majority of subscription base.
4. Cartels scramble... no where to go... not as much demand for harder drugs...
5. Cartels inevitably lose power, much like Al Capone and co. did after prohibition.
6. Less power to the cartels = less headless bodies on the side of the road.

but you're a **** Republican, so if it doesn't happen in the good ole USA it doesn't matter, sorry i forgot.

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« Reply #152 on: August 11, 2012, 06:20:06 pm »

What happens inside the USA doesn't really matter either. You still can't prove those assumptions though. You've got your head so far up your own asshole right now. PRove that the demand will decrease, prove that cartels will have no where to go. Why would the demand in the US change if the price of weed sky rockets? People aren't afraid to commit a crime now, why would they in the future?

There's better alternatives than legalizing weed to destroy cartels, but you are all so fucking obsessed with the plant that all you care about is getting it.
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« Reply #153 on: August 11, 2012, 08:09:47 pm »

Why should it be illegal if they make fake weed
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« Reply #154 on: August 11, 2012, 09:25:48 pm »

People aren't afraid to commit a crime now, why would they in the future?


prove it prove it

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like ss dope said, no one will know until it's legalized, which it will sometime in the future because people will stop listening to dipshits like you
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« Reply #155 on: August 11, 2012, 09:29:46 pm »

How cute, you pointlessly disected my post.

You seem upset.

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Anyway, you assumed something and I'm telling you that you're wrong, Dr. Phil.

No, I inferred what you implied.  If you didn't mean to imply that Dr Gerson's treatment was viable but shunned in response to my claim that any scientist who discovered a cure for cancer would not be bought out, then perhaps you ought to word things like that a little differently.

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Also, id call the use of radiation less sane than consuming a boatload of veggies and nutritious food.

Then I'd call you scientifically illiterate.  Radiation therapy works.  We have repeatable experiments that prove this.  Eating vegetables is a preventative measure for basically just colon cancer; it's not a treatment for any kind of cancer.  Not only that, but Dr. Gerson's "treatment" isn't even remotely backed up by any scientific experimentation whatsoever.
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« Reply #156 on: August 11, 2012, 10:33:35 pm »

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You seem upset.
Funny, cause you "seemed" upset yourself.  Go figure

Again, I mentioned him because of the conspiracy theory. I know that most of the studies are clinical and were his, and that's why I'm not a firm believer in the therapy.  But if/when someone claims there is a cure then the medical/pharmacutical community may not like it very much seeing as how much money is made on "medicine" and chemo. I can understand why they don't want people to be healthy; it hurts their wallets.  

Also, radiation therapy isn't 100% effective either and makes some people very very ill.  I've had relatives who've died from cancer after failed chemo attempts and the canceer wasn't even advanced.



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« Reply #157 on: August 11, 2012, 10:55:18 pm »

early detection leads to cures

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« Reply #158 on: August 11, 2012, 11:00:09 pm »

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You seem upset.
Funny, cause you "seemed" upset yourself.  Go figure

Nah.  You're projecting.

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Again, I mentioned him because of the conspiracy theory. I know that most of the studies are clinical and were his, and that's why I'm not a firm believer in the therapy.  But if/when someone claims there is a cure then the medical/pharmacutical community may not like it very much seeing as how much money is made on "medicine" and chemo. I can understand why they don't want people to be healthy; it hurts their wallets.

He's not an example of this, though.  He's an example of a conman who was rightfully barred from deceiving people in the US.  Bringing it up was almost irrelevant.

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Also, radiation therapy isn't 100% effective either and makes some people very very ill.  I've had relatives who've died from cancer after failed chemo attempts and the canceer wasn't even advanced.

No shit.  If something that cured cancer was 100% effective, we wouldn't have cancer.  But effective is effective even if its success rate isn't perfect, and experimentally and clinically proven to work is better than "Hmm, I feel like this person has a good chance of recovery based on how they appeared coming into my program and leaving it", which is what "Dr." Gerson did.
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« Reply #159 on: August 12, 2012, 12:08:52 am »

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But effective is effective even if its success rate isn't perfect, and experimentally and clinically proven to work is better than "Hmm, I feel like this person has a good chance of recovery based on how they appeared coming into my program and leaving it", which is what "Dr." Gerson did.

Not entirely acurate. Many people have attributed his program to the recession of their cancer, personally, so although minute on a grand scale of succes, can't the same principle of effectiveness apply?

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« Reply #160 on: August 12, 2012, 12:26:26 am »

Nearly every decision made in government is based on assumptions.  This is why many programs fail. 

We make decisions to try and improve upon the current system.  Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. 

Remember the prohibition?  That didn't last long.

Everything is based on assumptions...  economic policy, foreign policy, healthcare programs, etc.

At least some assumptions are more well reasoned than others.

Your topic claims that you have depth and analysis?  Your only argument is that we don't have a time machine to prove that the benefits of legal wiid are real.  Good stuff, you win moron.  I have no time machine, and I am not going to waste my time surveying the nation on wiid. 

Eventually, our society is going to vote it legal, unfortunately, a few more old people need to die off first so the younger voters gain control.
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« Reply #161 on: August 12, 2012, 12:51:41 am »

Wrong. Extensive market research is done. Doing market research on a black market isn't letting getting information about health care.
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« Reply #162 on: August 12, 2012, 07:13:19 am »

More and more people are believing in a holistic approach to treating cancer, such as living a healthier lifestyle (more fruits/vegetables, natural/organic foods and meditation).

The thing about that "doctor" is putting castor oil up your anus. dafuq?
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between the 3 of them or how ever many where there one of them could of got the gun and pointed it at him and told him to gtfo. Its that simple he would of left no one raped murdered lives saved so on and so forth daugher be eating her captain crunch the next morning
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« Reply #163 on: August 12, 2012, 10:16:56 am »

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But effective is effective even if its success rate isn't perfect, and experimentally and clinically proven to work is better than "Hmm, I feel like this person has a good chance of recovery based on how they appeared coming into my program and leaving it", which is what "Dr." Gerson did.

Not entirely acurate. Many people have attributed his program to the recession of their cancer, personally, so although minute on a grand scale of succes, can't the same principle of effectiveness apply?

No.  Any number of variables could have influenced the recession of their cancer (which, by the way, hasn't been proven.  Did you read the excerpts I gave to you?  The median lifespan of this Dr's patients after his treatment was abysmal, and all but one of them died from their cancers.).  That's why independent laboratory and clinical trials are important.  Personal anecdotes are not proof.  These people are not doctors.  They do not have a say in whether or not X treatment cured Y illness that will hold any weight to anyone who isn't also deluded.
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« Reply #164 on: August 12, 2012, 11:49:44 am »

Ok, so now that Gerson is ruled out, what are your thoughts on a conspiracy theory?  If a cure exists or came to pass, do you think the medical community would embrase it with open arms?
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