Less people buying more new games > more people buying more used games. People that buy used games a lot aren't really helping the industry, especially not the developers themselves. Profit is made on software, not hardware. People that just buy a system then barely buy any new games for it aren't supporting the industry. So... cutting those people out just leaves the people who buy new. People aren't actually going to just stop buying games for that. If you love gaming, you will continue doing so. All you have left are the tons of people who actually buy new games, and eventually that can lead to lowered prices of games in the long run anyways. Especially on the digital front.
This is pretty much exactly the same as "piracy kills [insert industry]'s profits!" Which isn't true. Guess what: If I buy a used game, it's because I would not pay full price for it. There is no other reason to buy a used game, given the inherent risk of the disk being scratched up that comes with doing so.
If someone buys a used game, you can be pretty confident they wouldn't buy the game at full price anyway.
Conversely, sharing games with friends (which falls into the realm of used games, to me, as loaning a game to a friend does not directly give developers money) may entice the friends to buy the game for themselves, which would directly benefit the developers.
I don't see how you and others can seriously argue that used games hurt developers when the video game industry has grown massively in the past few decades,
despite people sharing games, pirating games, and buying used games.
Not only that, but it's not like buying new games necessarily directly benefits the developers. Publishers fund most AAA games, like your Maddens and CoDs and BFs and Mass Effects. Sure, more sales probably results in publishers requesting development of more games like that, but it's not a given.
People are way too concerned with silly things like being spied on. Jeeze, you walk down the street and there are tons of cameras looking at you. Oh no! Your life is over!
What the actual f

uck, DG? Are you trolling or something? I'm speechless. I can't believe you're serious about this.
Ads being directed towards you because the companies know what you like! Apocalypse!
This has literally nothing to do with advertisements. This is about Microsoft willingly giving data to an intelligence agency that
undeniably spies on not only Americans, but also citizens of other countries (including Canada). This is about Microsoft introducing a console that requires an internet connection and a voice-detection + video system into its console.
Get your head out of your ass.
I am speaking about how the X1 affects me. You can all say how the X1 affects you. That's cool, that's what a conversation is for. To discuss how it doesn't affect me, and apparently, it does affect you. That's what this is. I see no problem with it.
Where did I say it affects me? I have no clue where you got that from.
In fact, I've been saying the opposite: It doesn't affect me, as I have no intention of buying it, but I'm mature enough to understand that something can be wrong without it directly influencing me in any way. How you seem to be unable to do the same is concerning, to say the least.
About what I said about Microsoft future proofing, the obvious example is how they required broadband internet for the 360, everyone went crazy about that at the time because it wasn't readily available to everyone. Similar situation here.
Except they didn't "require" broadband internet for the 360 in the same sense. They required it for online gaming, which is understandable, as that was a feature that you had to pay for on top of the console. Nor is that particularly visionary or, as you called it, evidence of "future proofing".
Microsoft has said that they have more to announce in the months to come before release, so wait for all the information to be laid out. They've been kind of quiet and behind-the-scenes with all the "negative" information they have to offer, they probably want to see what people think first and then deliver the final product later this year.
Not sure what world you live in, but they definitely haven't been quiet about the negative information. That's why everyone's upset, if you weren't aware.
When I said "Clearly Microsoft narrowed their market down - good for them." it was sarcasm. As in, good for them, who cares... let's see where that ends up putting them in the long run. It's too soon to judge.
But the point is that people
do care, a point which despite my best attempts you still seem to be missing.
What I have learned about people on the internet over the past month or so:
Change is not allowed.
People are way too entitled.
If something isn't marketed towards you, it's bad.
Holy hell DG, here you go again by deliberately misrepresenting the legitimate complaints of others. This is absolutely pathetic.
People like to complain(or in this case the fanboys of other companies - brag) about things that don't concern them.
Are you saying that those of us in this topic who are criticizing the moves Microsoft has made are fanboys for Sony? F

uck off with your strawmen arguments, dude.
Ads being directed towards you because the companies know what you like! Apocalypse!
This has literally nothing to do with advertisements. This is about Microsoft willingly giving data to an intelligence agency that
undeniably spies on not only Americans, but also citizens of other countries (including Canada). This is about Microsoft introducing a console that requires an internet connection and a voice-detection + video system into its console.
Get your head out of your ass.
I am speaking about how the X1 affects me. You can all say how the X1 affects you. That's cool, that's what a conversation is for. To discuss how it doesn't affect me, and apparently, it does affect you. That's what this is. I see no problem with it.
Where did I say it affects me? I have no clue where you got that from.
In fact, I've been saying the opposite: It doesn't affect me, as I have no intention of buying it, but I'm mature enough to understand that something can be wrong without it directly influencing me in any way. How you seem to be unable to do the same is concerning, to say the least.
About what I said about Microsoft future proofing, the obvious example is how they required broadband internet for the 360, everyone went crazy about that at the time because it wasn't readily available to everyone. Similar situation here.
Except they didn't "require" broadband internet for the 360 in the same sense. They required it for online gaming, which is understandable, as that was a feature that you had to pay for on top of the console. Nor is that particularly visionary or, as you called it, evidence of "future proofing".
Microsoft has said that they have more to announce in the months to come before release, so wait for all the information to be laid out. They've been kind of quiet and behind-the-scenes with all the "negative" information they have to offer, they probably want to see what people think first and then deliver the final product later this year.
Not sure what world you live in, but they definitely haven't been quiet about the negative information. That's why everyone's upset, if you weren't aware.
When I said "Clearly Microsoft narrowed their market down - good for them." it was sarcasm. As in, good for them, who cares... let's see where that ends up putting them in the long run. It's too soon to judge.
But the point is that people
do care, a point which despite my best attempts you still seem to be missing.
What I have learned about people on the internet over the past month or so:
Change is not allowed.
People are way too entitled.
If something isn't marketed towards you, it's bad.
Holy hell DG, here you go again by deliberately misrepresenting the legitimate complaints of others. This is absolutely pathetic.
People like to complain(or in this case the fanboys of other companies - brag) about things that don't concern them.
Are you saying that those of us in this topic who are criticizing the moves Microsoft has made are fanboys for Sony? F
uck off with your strawmen arguments, dude.
What really ****es me off are the people like me that had no interest in buying the new Xbox anyways, and probably wouldn't be affected by the way the internet connection works on it, yet still bash it as if it's the worst thing ever and it's ruining their lives.
Oh look, more exaggeration of the complaints people have made.
Microsoft has introduced terrible policies and people are mad about that
and have every right to complain about it. It represents a move by a major player in the games industry that people do not want to see happen with other companies, and they are being vocal about it. Just because your opinion is that people shouldn't complain about things that don't hurt them directly does not mean that their complaints are not legitimate.
At this point I'm curious about your opinions on sex slavery and food shortages, because I don't see any reason to believe you have an empathetic inclination in your body.
I don't even like the Xbox at all, yet I'm sitting here defending it solely because literally everyone is against it and the reasons (while for some are legitimate) are just silly for others that are just agreeing to fit in.
Then list the reasons you think the Xbox One's DRM isn't as bad as everyone thinks it is instead of continuing to avoid the god damn question. I could not physically care less about your opinion of the people who are complaining. What you think of them has nothing to do with the merits and faults of the XBOne. Tell me why you think the XBOne's DRM is a good idea, not what you think of the people complaining about it. Does that make it clear?
I agree 100% with the people upset about these things because they directly affect them. People that don't have access to the internet all the time have a right to be upset, but you can't just scream at Microsoft until they listen.
Why? Why can people not do that? Why can people not tell a company what they want and what they don't want?
Please explain why you think this is the case. I'm very, very curious.
They were obviously prepared for backlash from people that they aren't trying to sell the console to. If the way the X1 works doesn't work for you, don't buy it. It's as simple as that. Move on, buy a PS4, or stick with a 360/PS3. Hell, build a PC. Whatever you need to do to continue gaming. It's not like the entire industry is flipped on it's head right now and to play any games you MUST have internet at all times. This is blown out of proportion. There are still options for everyone.
And you're still missing the point.
People are not disallowed from criticizing something due to the fact that it does not affect them directly. I will not be buying the XBOne under any circumstances, but it does not make me any less eligible to voice my dislike of their new policies, because
I recognize how bad they are for other people, a character trait you seem to have never learned.
People want to buy consoles from Microsoft because they want to play the exclusives on that platform. To say that these people (who you claim Microsoft are not marketing to) have no basis to complain is an extremely shallow viewpoint and betrays a great deal of narrow thinking on your part. They have every right to complain that a system that hosts content they want will not work for them simply because of deliberate actions on Microsoft's part, not due to uncontrollable circumstances.
Gah, I hate writing my thoughts down. They never come out right, I'm much better at actually talking about things. I feel like when I type I come off really serious/arrogant, but really if I was talking to you I'd be grinning and having a good time.
If you were grinning to me in person while saying some of the stuff you're saying, I'm pretty sure I'd be livid.