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So, IW themselves say "CoD players aren't **** games, or even gamers."

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« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2013, 01:38:39 pm »

So people who go pro in CoD and only play CoD are casual gamers? Is that what you're saying?
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« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2013, 01:44:12 pm »

to me casual gaming just means easy to pick up and play for anyone
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« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2013, 01:49:08 pm »

So people who go pro in CoD and only play CoD are casual gamers? Is that what you're saying?

meh. Competitive CoD players. Doing it for the money.
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« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2013, 02:41:28 pm »

tl;dr CoD by itself is a casual game and IW feels the ones that ONLY play CoD(no matter how many hours they put into it) are still casual players of GAMING altogether.
I'm not sure I can agree with such a generalized statement. There are guys who dedicate themselves to say, Street Fighter, pretty intensely. To the point that they get on planes and fly all over the world for foreign tournaments. Are they "casuals" because they don't have time admist their dedication to being the best at a particular game to play other games?

My earlier statement would still stand...as a Gamer that player is still casual but they're a hard core SF player. It doesn't matter what the game is(hell it could be EVE on the PC; arguably one of the hardest games to learn) if that's all they play then that player is still just a casual gamer.

But yes, the terms are stupid because at the end of the day, they're all Gamers.
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« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2013, 03:16:53 pm »

So people who go pro in CoD and only play CoD are casual gamers? Is that what you're saying?

meh. Competitive CoD players. Doing it for the money.
Ok, then how about competitive League of Legends players? Or StarCraft players? Or Dota2 players?
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« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2013, 03:24:28 pm »

Did the creators call their sheep casual? n0p3

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« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2013, 03:48:06 pm »

lol, what?
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« Reply #37 on: October 22, 2013, 03:58:31 pm »

tl;dr CoD by itself is a casual game and IW feels the ones that ONLY play CoD(no matter how many hours they put into it) are still casual players of GAMING altogether.
I'm not sure I can agree with such a generalized statement. There are guys who dedicate themselves to say, Street Fighter, pretty intensely. To the point that they get on planes and fly all over the world for foreign tournaments. Are they "casuals" because they don't have time admist their dedication to being the best at a particular game to play other games?

My earlier statement would still stand...as a Gamer that player is still casual but they're a hard core SF player. It doesn't matter what the game is(hell it could be EVE on the PC; arguably one of the hardest games to learn) if that's all they play then that player is still just a casual gamer.
I disagree.

Partially, because it doesn't mean they don't know, understand, have experience, or have an interest in other games. They just have to make sacrifices for the game they want to get better at. If they had more time, most of them would probably indulge in other games (as most of them do, except in this theoretical example). How they choose to spend their time doesn't really say anything about their thoughts or preferences on gaming in general, and trying to say it does is making a baseless assumption.

This is a very silly definition for an already extremely silly term.

Think of the contradiction here.

You're essentially saying that someone who devotes their life to a game isn't a **** gamer. Saying their a hard-core street fighter fan but not a **** gamer is silly because Street Fighter IS a game. And as I said, their choice of devotion to Street Fighter doesn't say anything else about their preferences or understanding of other games.

I suppose you could say that maybe if the person in question came out and said explicitly "I think all video games are stupid except for this one", but even so, they are still a person who has devoted their life to a game (again, this is a theoretical example. Even the best tournament players don't have to devote themselves this extremely), and saying that they aren't a gamer or aren't ****, really just says how absurd and ill defined concepts like casual, hard-core, and gamer are.
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« Reply #38 on: October 23, 2013, 02:22:59 am »

Plays a large number of games frequently = **** gamer
Plays a lot of Call of Duty = **** CoD player

Seems fair to me.
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« Reply #39 on: October 23, 2013, 02:02:21 pm »

Seems fair, I wont agree or disagree.
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« Reply #40 on: October 23, 2013, 02:11:02 pm »

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« Reply #41 on: October 23, 2013, 04:48:23 pm »

Plays a large number of games frequently = **** gamer
Plays a lot of Call of Duty = **** CoD player

Seems fair to me.
Doesn't seem fair to me at all. Call of Duty is still a video game. A Call of Duty player is still a player.

It should also be noted that there is nothing stopping this silly logic from being applied not just to particular games, but also to entire genres or systems.

"You only really play rpg's? You're not a real gamer. You're just an rpg fan."

"You only own a playstation console? You're not a real gamer. You're just a playstation fan."

"You only like multiplayer games? You're not a real gamer. You're just social."

etc. etc.
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« Reply #42 on: October 23, 2013, 04:56:47 pm »

No need to be so literal, it's a state of mind.
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« Reply #43 on: October 23, 2013, 05:12:47 pm »

No need to be so literal, it's a state of mind.

Yes, yours is a completely closed minded one
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« Reply #44 on: October 23, 2013, 05:37:05 pm »

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