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« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2016, 09:21:05 pm »

Two guys throwing punches at each other is a hell of a lot better than two guys firing shots at each other. You're not going to hit a kid riding his bike 50 feet away with your fist. People are also a hell of a lot tougher when they have a weapon to inflict the pain for them.
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« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2016, 07:57:31 am »

Two guys throwing punches at each other is a hell of a lot better than two guys firing shots at each other. You're not going to hit a kid riding his bike 50 feet away with your fist. People are also a hell of a lot tougher when they have a weapon to inflict the pain for them.

Ah, the unrealistic response of an idealist who ignores that reality isn't as neatly packaged as his fantasies.

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« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2016, 10:08:06 am »

Reality is every other economically developed country with lower gun ownership rates than the United States.

I own a night club in the nations capital, we have metal detectors at the door. Not once has a gun ever been found on a body. No one in the building needs a gun for protection because no one has a gun.
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« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2016, 10:21:45 am »

And reality is those people in those countries have less ability to protect themselves in case of attack. What's your point? It's not like gun violence doesn't show up in those countries. Ask the people of Paris how their strict laws kept guns out of the hands of the terrorists and how a disarmed population was equipped to do anything about it. If you want to live in a society that ignores the dangers of the world and just hopes nothing happens to you, that's your prerogative. Stay put in Canada and mind your business. I'll stay here and continue to fight for my right to keep my personal defense under my control in the US.

You seem to be under the impression every other developed country has the same circumstances as the US. We are the hub of the worldwide drug trade filtered through mexico and south america. This results in extreme levels of gang activity and the violent crime associated with it in our inner cities. You trying to compare apples and oranges to make your point falls on deaf ears. We have very unique circumstances that means no amount of gun control will remove guns from the streets. As such, people should have the right to protect themselves.
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« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2016, 10:47:48 am »

Shoot, forgot about those pictures ohio. I'll try to do that soon.  Cheesy
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« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2016, 10:49:25 am »

You aren't protecting yourself by owning a gun. Terrorist attacks happen if you own a gun or not.
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« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2016, 11:49:48 am »

You aren't protecting yourself by owning a gun. Terrorist attacks happen if you own a gun or not.

Owning a gun does nothing. Training and carrying one can certainly change the situation though. Had a room full of people been trained and carrying a gun for their own protection been there when a public shooting takes place, the outcomes can be vastly different.

The point is that I (and fundamental principles of American liberty) believe an individual is responsible for their own personal protection; that the government is not in a position to participate in that (the old adage that when seconds matter, police are only minutes away); and that every law abiding citizen should enjoy that freedom to be in charge of their own protection without government infringement. You are free to hand over your personal safety to a government or to chance and hope nothing happens to you, but I will not. A person only gets one life. I do not relinquish the protection of that life to anyone else.
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« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2016, 03:19:36 pm »

And had assault rifles been outlawed, you wouldn't need to defend yourself.
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« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2016, 07:17:31 am »

And had assault rifles been outlawed, you wouldn't need to defend yourself.

LOL. Yeah because "assault rifles" (what does that even mean because semi-auto, mag fed rifles have been around since the 1800s) are the only reason I would need to defend myself. That's hilarious. 99%+ of times someone needs a gun in self defense it is not a rifle they are threatened with. Talking about "assault rifles" is nothing but a talking point for ignorant people who know nothing about guns.
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« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2016, 04:06:23 pm »

99%+ someone needs a gun in self defends, they don't get a chance to use it anyways. Someone pulls a gun on you, and you proceed to pull yours out, you think they are just going to let you shoot them?
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« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2016, 04:07:39 pm »

https://www.theguardian.com/science/blog/2013/mar/25/guns-protection-national-rifle-association

"They found that those with firearms were about 4.5 times more likely to be shot than those who did not carry, utterly belying this oft repeated mantra."

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« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2016, 12:04:13 pm »

They try to tweak the variables to make their point. However, John Lott has over and again proven they are dead wrong on those "studies."
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« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2016, 12:05:29 pm »

99%+ someone needs a gun in self defends, they don't get a chance to use it anyways. Someone pulls a gun on you, and you proceed to pull yours out, you think they are just going to let you shoot them?

This is why training is important. A well trained individual can defeat an armed assailant just about every single time. Go get some quality defensive pistol training so you have a clue what you're talking about and then get back to me.
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« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2016, 12:40:28 pm »

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« Reply #29 on: September 29, 2016, 12:46:18 pm »

I honestly can't believe you're using John Lott as a reference for why guns are good. He's a know joke, and his "facts" are made up. It's a miracle the GOP even uses him, but it makes sense considering it's impossible to find anyone credible who would actually advocate for guns.
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