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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2009, 10:22:22 am »

Don't you think that pointing out everyones little mistakes that does not even need to be mention about is rather pointless? Well having to point out every mistake is a mistake of it's own.

D3 talking to D3: Having the tendency to point out everything wrong about everything is like being a perfectionist who never reaches perfection.

No, it's an attempt to help you out but feel free to look stupid.
Look stupid? Listen in real life nobody gives a care if you make a mistake in spelling. (Unless if it is important which typing on a forum is not even a necessity) People just go it is o.k it happens to everyone, they don't act like you and go, what a idiot he made a spelling error! I would rather look stupid then to act like a jerk who can't take a chill pill and stop picking on people just because they made a mistake. Mistakes happen to EVERYONE. Nobody cares that bad for a simple spelling error which can be fixed in seconds. But you seem to like to do it anyway. All I am saying is that pointing out mistakes are o.k but stupidity does NOT come from mistakes it comes from doing things on purpose. I did not do that on purpose so I think you should just stop acting like a jerk.

Mistakes are a part of life I agree but whoever makes the least succeeds.

I don't agree with that. Mistakes are absolutely the best learning experience. You have to make the mistakes yourself in order to gain the most experience. So, someone who makes very few mistakes has fewer opportunities to learn and more than likely won't be as successful.
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« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2009, 11:04:02 am »

I don't agree with that. Mistakes are absolutely the best learning experience. You have to make the mistakes yourself in order to gain the most experience. So, someone who makes very few mistakes has fewer opportunities to learn and more than likely won't be as successful.

But, assuming someone doesn't sit in a padded room all day and actually makes decisions, wouldn't you say that the person in question was wise if he never needed to learn from mistakes because he made the right choices?  Mistakes are great to learn from, but sometimes it just serves as a wake-up slap to the people who go through life sleeping; if you're already awake, what good would a wake-up slap do?
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« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2009, 11:12:16 am »

Don't you think that pointing out everyones little mistakes that does not even need to be mention about is rather pointless? Well having to point out every mistake is a mistake of it's own.

D3 talking to D3: Having the tendency to point out everything wrong about everything is like being a perfectionist who never reaches perfection.

No, it's an attempt to help you out but feel free to look stupid.
Look stupid? Listen in real life nobody gives a care if you make a mistake in spelling. (Unless if it is important which typing on a forum is not even a necessity) People just go it is o.k it happens to everyone, they don't act like you and go, what a idiot he made a spelling error! I would rather look stupid then to act like a jerk who can't take a chill pill and stop picking on people just because they made a mistake. Mistakes happen to EVERYONE. Nobody cares that bad for a simple spelling error which can be fixed in seconds. But you seem to like to do it anyway. All I am saying is that pointing out mistakes are o.k but stupidity does NOT come from mistakes it comes from doing things on purpose. I did not do that on purpose so I think you should just stop acting like a jerk.

Mistakes are a part of life I agree but whoever makes the least succeeds.

I don't agree with that. Mistakes are absolutely the best learning experience. You have to make the mistakes yourself in order to gain the most experience. So, someone who makes very few mistakes has fewer opportunities to learn and more than likely won't be as successful.

Person A gets no mistakes on a test. Person B gets 30. Who succeeds?
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« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2009, 11:28:38 am »

I don't agree with that. Mistakes are absolutely the best learning experience. You have to make the mistakes yourself in order to gain the most experience. So, someone who makes very few mistakes has fewer opportunities to learn and more than likely won't be as successful.

But, assuming someone doesn't sit in a padded room all day and actually makes decisions, wouldn't you say that the person in question was wise if he never needed to learn from mistakes because he made the right choices?  Mistakes are great to learn from, but sometimes it just serves as a wake-up slap to the people who go through life sleeping; if you're already awake, what good would a wake-up slap do?

I don't disagree that if you do everything perfectly then obviously you should have a perfect life. However, there's a big difference between doing everything perfectly and 'making the right choices'. Nobody can do everything perfectly so I won't talk about that point any longer. In terms of 'making the right choices', I again agree that you can go through life (and have a good life) by always making what appears to be the right choice. But that doesn't make you the most successful (as 3d stated).

Of course we could always get into the discussion on 'what does successful mean?'. Typically it means wealth, power, status, etc. I assume that is 3d's definition of success.

If that's the case then ask Donald Trump how many mistakes he's made and if he's learned from each mistake and become more successful because of it. How many times has he been on the brink of bankruptcy.

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"It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, and spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement; and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat."

– Theodore Roosevelt, 1910

Here are a couple of examples of failures that I Google'd:

Two other failures you may have heard of are Levi Strauss and Christopher Columbus. Strauss headed for the gold mines of California in hopes of gold and glory. But he found none. Instead, this failure gave him new knowledge of a gap in the marketplace. He began selling pants out of canvas for the miners that were succeeding. Today, we've all heard of Levi Strauss jeans. Columbus failed miserably on his goal to find a route to India . However, in failing he ran into a new opportunity.. that of the new world. By taking action and learning from your mistakes and failures, you'll gain new knowledge and become aware of many new opportunities. When you come to the edge of what you know, it's time to make some mistakes.

http://www.woopidoo.com/articles/allis/mistakes-article.htm
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« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2009, 11:34:03 am »

Don't you think that pointing out everyones little mistakes that does not even need to be mention about is rather pointless? Well having to point out every mistake is a mistake of it's own.

D3 talking to D3: Having the tendency to point out everything wrong about everything is like being a perfectionist who never reaches perfection.

No, it's an attempt to help you out but feel free to look stupid.
Look stupid? Listen in real life nobody gives a care if you make a mistake in spelling. (Unless if it is important which typing on a forum is not even a necessity) People just go it is o.k it happens to everyone, they don't act like you and go, what a idiot he made a spelling error! I would rather look stupid then to act like a jerk who can't take a chill pill and stop picking on people just because they made a mistake. Mistakes happen to EVERYONE. Nobody cares that bad for a simple spelling error which can be fixed in seconds. But you seem to like to do it anyway. All I am saying is that pointing out mistakes are o.k but stupidity does NOT come from mistakes it comes from doing things on purpose. I did not do that on purpose so I think you should just stop acting like a jerk.

Mistakes are a part of life I agree but whoever makes the least succeeds.

I don't agree with that. Mistakes are absolutely the best learning experience. You have to make the mistakes yourself in order to gain the most experience. So, someone who makes very few mistakes has fewer opportunities to learn and more than likely won't be as successful.

Person A gets no mistakes on a test. Person B gets 30. Who succeeds?

That depends, if Person A never makes mistakes on tests then he is no more successful than he was yesterday. If Person B typically got all of the questions wrong and has improved his score because he's learning from his previous mistakes then he is more successful than he was yesterday.

Who's more successful?
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« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2009, 11:34:49 am »

Don't you think that pointing out everyones little mistakes that does not even need to be mention about is rather pointless? Well having to point out every mistake is a mistake of it's own.

D3 talking to D3: Having the tendency to point out everything wrong about everything is like being a perfectionist who never reaches perfection.

No, it's an attempt to help you out but feel free to look stupid.
Look stupid? Listen in real life nobody gives a care if you make a mistake in spelling. (Unless if it is important which typing on a forum is not even a necessity) People just go it is o.k it happens to everyone, they don't act like you and go, what a idiot he made a spelling error! I would rather look stupid then to act like a jerk who can't take a chill pill and stop picking on people just because they made a mistake. Mistakes happen to EVERYONE. Nobody cares that bad for a simple spelling error which can be fixed in seconds. But you seem to like to do it anyway. All I am saying is that pointing out mistakes are o.k but stupidity does NOT come from mistakes it comes from doing things on purpose. I did not do that on purpose so I think you should just stop acting like a jerk.

Mistakes are a part of life I agree but whoever makes the least succeeds.

I don't agree with that. Mistakes are absolutely the best learning experience. You have to make the mistakes yourself in order to gain the most experience. So, someone who makes very few mistakes has fewer opportunities to learn and more than likely won't be as successful.

Person A gets no mistakes on a test. Person B gets 30. Who succeeds?

That depends, if Person A never makes mistakes on tests then he is no more successful than he was yesterday. If Person B typically got all of the questions wrong and has improved his score because he's learning from his previous mistakes then he is more successful than he was yesterday.

Who's more successful?

I did not ask who is improving there success rate did I?
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« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2009, 11:47:09 am »

No you didn't ask that and I didn't say you did. I was giving you a perspective that you couldn't even imagine.

You see, Person A, may continue to do well in the environment he is in, but he doesn't know what it means to fail. So, when he does fail (and he will), he won't be as equipped to deal with that failure as Person B. Person B is already learning from his mistakes and given a new situation he will have to opportunity to be more successful than Person A.
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« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2009, 01:23:18 pm »

I Person B learned from many mistakes, then he won't be able to get an opportunity to be as successful as Person A because Person B would make a lot of mistakes and no one would want him.

Person A will always be more successful than Person B.
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« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2009, 01:54:21 pm »

Oooh your so lucky I'm not near a keyboard.
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« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2009, 01:54:59 pm »

Good.  This is already too long to read.
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« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2009, 02:05:06 pm »

I don't write walls of text like N2.
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« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2009, 02:06:17 pm »

That's what you think.   Afro
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« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2009, 02:13:16 pm »

That's my story and I'm sticking to it sweetcheeks.
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« Reply #28 on: August 03, 2009, 02:15:20 pm »

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« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2009, 02:15:28 pm »

hahahahaha!  the topic is about a clan xD and it turned in a topic about failure and successs.

failure and success are relative  x)  thats all i have to say  Undecided
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