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A Message to All the Homosexuals

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« Reply #225 on: December 01, 2010, 03:55:26 pm »

um, not true.

they mapped the entire human gene.  you might be referring to the sequencing of the gene.  They completed 95% of the genetic sequence to 99.99% accuracy in 2003, but the mapping and identification of the genes was completed in 1994, early on in the project.

Obviously, genetic and biological are two very different terms.  There is NO gene for sexual orientation, so you can't call homosexuality genetic.  The human genome project has sparked many other research projects into biological effects of the genes, but that doesn't change the fact that homosexuality is not genetic, only leaves open the door for biological factors (which no one has still yet to make any connection to homosexuality).

Let me ask you this:

1) Did you state that there is no sexual orientation gene?
2) Did you state that homosexuality was biological and not genetic?
3) Did you state that heterosexuality was biological and not genetic?
4) Did you state that because procreation requires a man and a woman (gender is based on genetics), one could deduce that heterosexuality is essentially genetic?

I assume you will answer "yes" to all of these questions.

Just because being a man and woman is genetic and we need a man and a woman to procreate does not mean that heterosexuality is genetic. You could basically state the same thing with two men (gender being genetic) who are drawn to one another in a sexual way (homosexuality). It's obviously in their genes to be drawn to one another considering being a man is genetic and they have urges for one another....Procreation is a whole other topic and does not change the fact that there is no sexual orientation gene. That's why your statements are contradictory. Sure, you didn't use the exact words "sexual orientation is genetic", but you stated it was in the genes, but only heterosexuality, not homosexuality because that suits your purpose. Just because it suits your purpose doesn't make it correct.

You're statements are contradictory. I've shown you that. If you want to be wrong and ignore the facts then that's your prerogative.


lol um no.  They are not contradictory.  I have shown that over and over.  You don't get it.  You still seem too stupid to get that I AM NOT SAYING HETEROSEXUALITY IS GENETIC!  Geez.  The phrase I used was "in the genes".  That was not intended in any way to say that heterosexuality is genetic.  And had you had half a brain, you could have deduced that from the discussion.  

Let me say this again for you slowly.  Heterosexuality is biological, not genetic.  Sex (gender) IS genetic.  So while heterosexuality is NOT genetic, it is based on something that is genetic.  That's while it is "in our genes."  That phrase is a figure of speech.  You might hear someone say, "That kid is ornery.  It is in his genes."  Yet there is no gene for orneriness.  However some other aspects of humans that are related to ornriness are genetic.  There is a big difference between something being genetic (i.e. there is a gene on our genome that directly controls it), and something being "in our genes" and simply being based off of something else that is genetic.

I'm sorry you don't understand.  You simply seem incapable.  Yet you want to also add rebuttal that the same works for a man and a man.  LOL that is laughable.  It does not work the same in any way.  There is not a point based on actual human genetics that ties homosexuality to genetics in the same way that heterosexuality does.  Allow me to get you a copy of a textbook on the human reproductive system.  LOL.  Good try, but it failed.  The connection doesn't exist.

THAT is why I can say that there is no sexual orientation gene (because it's true), and at the same time refer to heterosexuality as being "in our genes" and not say that homosexuality is also in our genes.  

You have once again proven your lack of understanding of the difference between biological and genetic.  You now talk about "urges" and somehow say that is genetic.  Our urges are NOT genetic, but biological.  Therein lies the difference and that is exactly why you don't understand.  

Male and female is genetic.  Sexual orientation is not.  Heterosexuality is not an orientation, but rather basic human biology.  You seem to lump heterosexuality and homosexuality together and think they must both be the same in origin.  However, they are not.  One is natural and one is not.  One is based on human anatomy and biology (and even genetics when you consider male and female), while the other is not.

It is obvious that your beliefs on the subject won't allow you to see that my statements are not contradictory based on my beliefs.  You refuse to understand that our points of view differ so drastically that you won't take my beliefs into account in reconciling the statements.  You can't see past your own opinion.
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