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« Reply #180 on: November 30, 2010, 12:50:02 pm »

So, you are saying that it is environmental... Which essentially boils the debate down to the bible (as our guideline) as it seems to be the only source that people refer to when denouncing homosexuality. We raise our children to be heterosexual because the bible said that's what we should do and out pops a bunch of heterosexuals. If we raise them incorrectly then we run the risk of homosexuals.

If I were a biblical scholar then I would insert some ludicrous quotes and teachings from the bible. I'm sure there are plenty and through interpretation they have been weeded out, minimized, deemed to have no merit. Statements around homosexuality being a sin, are obviously ludicrous in some people's eyes, but have never been interpreted differently or renounced.

Anyone care to quote the bible?

I will say that getting pregnant and having babies is anything but natural.
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« Reply #181 on: November 30, 2010, 01:01:16 pm »

You are the one bringing the Bible into it, not me. All I can say about the Bible is that is says a man and a woman should marry and reproduce.

I was just saying (as if I weren't a believer in the Bible), that naturally, if I have a mother and a father then I would be inclined to find a femal and do the same eventually. If I was born with 2 dads and grew up in that type of environment then I would be apt to do the same. This scenario isn't possible though is it?
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« Reply #182 on: November 30, 2010, 01:14:50 pm »

Adoption makes anything possible. It's like Acid of the Children world.
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« Reply #183 on: November 30, 2010, 01:17:30 pm »

I brought the bible up because that's a big reason we form the family units that we have today. I also brought it up because Ohio stated that it was the standard to live by.

Society has been shaped by the teachings of the bible and that's what they are, teachings. If we are made by God, then why do we need a manual? Why does God have to tell us not to be a homosexual? If the bible was essentially written by God then why is it open to interpretation?

It's obvious that you need a man and woman to have children, but that doesn't mean that a marriage has to be a man and woman. It's the bible that tells us that is the proper marriage. Same goes for sex. We have urges to have sex, but it's the bible that tells us to have sex with the opposite gender.

So, whether you brought up the bible directly or not, it has an influence on your statement.
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« Reply #184 on: November 30, 2010, 01:18:45 pm »

Adoption makes anything possible. It's like Acid of the Children world.

And that's true, with advanced science and adoption, there are plenty of non-standard family units today. What happens to children of divorced parents? If they only have a Dad or a Mom? How do they choose?
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« Reply #185 on: November 30, 2010, 01:37:27 pm »

Science does make things possible, but then they become unatural. Look at animals. Do they have a manual? No, but they still reproduce with the opposite sex.

As far as God giving us a manual to live by, I can understand why;

He is considered our "Father" in Heaven. Now, me being a Father, and knowing that my children will have natural urges and tendencies, I'm going to establish rules in my home to ensure that they can not only survive in life, but succeed as well. Example: I tell my children that stealing is wrong. Why? Well, I know that for one, its against the law of man. And two, I know that they will be naturally inclined to take whatever they want for their own gain either dur to envy or selfish urges, but that it will hurt the person who they took from. This is how I see God's commandments. He know that there are things that will hurt us temporaly, spiritually, and eternally, and he set it up to where we can know of these things.

Staying on topic of sex and sexual urges, I'm going to raise my children that its innapropriate to just go around humping any and everything insight just because they have natural urges. Not teaching them that principal would probably result in them becoming rapists or whores. **** does hurt the victim. Whoredom does hurt people. That's why there are teachings of them being wrong.
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« Reply #186 on: November 30, 2010, 01:53:14 pm »

Most of the laws of man are based on interpretation of the bible. Use homosexual marriages as an example. If two homosexuals are married according to the law, then who are they hurting? They aren't raping people or being whores. Who are the victims of this crime of marriage? Who are the victims of homosexual acts?

In terms of animals, homosexuality exists there as well.

Just because we reproduce with the opposite sex does not mean that we should all live as husband and wife. Those are two completely different subjects. The institution of marriage as we know it is based on the bible, not on the need to reproduce. If there was no such thing as marriage then we could and would still reproduce. If the bible didn't state that homosexuality was forbidden then where would society be today? If that was the only change in the bible....
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« Reply #187 on: November 30, 2010, 01:54:04 pm »

you're all going to hell for your sinful beliefs Angry
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« Reply #188 on: November 30, 2010, 01:55:05 pm »

you're all going to hell for your sinful beliefs Angry

If there is a hell then that's probably where I will end up.
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« Reply #189 on: November 30, 2010, 02:06:17 pm »

yea me too. hey man look me up when you get there. we can have a lot of kechua secks

also play moar ps3 you sonovabich!!!!! Angry
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« Reply #190 on: November 30, 2010, 02:17:49 pm »

yea me too. hey man look me up when you get there. we can have a lot of kechua secks

also play moar ps3 you sonovabich!!!!! Angry

I will do that.

Why don't you have BLOPS FOR THE WII humper!
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« Reply #191 on: November 30, 2010, 02:21:05 pm »

Most of the laws of man are based on interpretation of the bible. Use homosexual marriages as an example. If two homosexuals are married according to the law, then who are they hurting? They aren't raping people or being whores. Who are the victims of this crime of marriage? Who are the victims of homosexual acts?

Exactly, the laws ARE biblical, and I'm thankful for that. Look at the perversions of men like the wacko in N. Korea and Hitler.  Do you not know what they do/did?

As far as marriage and homosexuals go, I have no problem with them being kechua or together.  What I do have a problem with is that they (and you) seem to want to use the sanctity of marriage to their own advantage, but yet they don't follow the principal of mariage in that it is supposed to be between a man and a woman. Why is it ok for someone to believe in something biblical like marriage, and yet NOT believe in the Bible itself and it's teachings? That's a bit hypocritical don't you think?

As far as who homosexual marriages hurt, all I can say is that it could possible hurt the chances of survival of our race/species.  If everone chooses to be homosexual then what happens to reproduction?  Now, in our times its not fathomable, but think about the long term big picture and how many generations would fall away if 1/10 start off kechua, then it doubles, and triples, etc...over time what could happen to us?
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« Reply #192 on: November 30, 2010, 02:30:46 pm »

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Exactly, the laws ARE biblical, and I'm thankful for that. Look at the perversions of men like the wacko in N. Korea and Hitler.  Do you not know what they do/did?

Laws came about long before the bible. So really, laws are about productivity....

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Why is it ok for someone to believe in something biblical like marriage, and yet NOT believe in the Bible itself and it's teachings?

Woah, the bible isn't the only thing that preaches marriage. Personally, I believe in marriage, for tax reasons, but I don't believe in the bible. What I'm saying is, marriage isn't only for those who are Christian or religious.

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As far as who homosexual marriages hurt, all I can say is that it could possible hurt the chances of survival of our race/species.

We are over populated, partly due to the preachings of the bible. Our species is fine.

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If everone chooses to be homosexual then what happens to reproduction?

If everyone choose to be straight, our world will and is overpopulated.
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« Reply #193 on: November 30, 2010, 02:41:20 pm »

Exactly, the laws ARE biblical, and I'm thankful for that. Look at the perversions of men like the wacko in N. Korea and Hitler.  Do you not know what they do/did?

The laws ARE NOT biblical, but are typically based on teachings of the bible. Keep in mind that laws are not the same everywhere. Not sure what Hitler and N Korea have to do with this...

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As far as marriage and homosexuals go, I have no problem with them being kechua or together.  What I do have a problem with is that they (and you) seem to want to use the sanctity of marriage to their own advantage, but yet they don't follow the principal of mariage in that it is supposed to be between a man and a woman. Why is it ok for someone to believe in something biblical like marriage, and yet NOT believe in the Bible itself and it's teachings? That's a bit hypocritical don't you think?


This is where you are wrong. I didn't state that homosexuals needed to get married in a Church or in the eyes of God. Getting married in the eyes of the government and getting married in the eyes of God are two different things. I also didn't state that marriage is simply biblical. I stated that it has origins in the bible. Things morph over time.

And the hypocrites are the ones that take pieces of the bible to follow and not all of it in my opinion. A person can't state that the bible is the word that should be followed and then not follow all of it. That is the definition of hypocritical.

I'm not being hypocritical in any way as I didn't state that homosexuals should be married in the eyes of God. I'm not asking to change what is believed to be God's word.

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As far as who homosexual marriages hurt, all I can say is that it could possible hurt the chances of survival of our race/species.  If everone chooses to be homosexual then what happens to reproduction?  Now, in our times its not fathomable, but think about the long term big picture and how many generations would fall away if 1/10 start off kechua, then it doubles, and triples, etc...over time what could happen to us?

I'll state it again, reproduction and homosexual marriages are two different things. We could have homosexual marriages all over the place and still reproduce. Men and women could simply get together for the sake of reproduction. That's entirely possible and not unfathomable at all. So, I don't believe our survival is at risk at all. We are only at risk if we are too stupid to realize we need the opposite sex for reproduction. Is anyone here that stupid?
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« Reply #194 on: November 30, 2010, 02:42:21 pm »

DDD got in before me, but we made some similar statements  Afro
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