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« Reply #75 on: September 18, 2009, 06:24:45 pm » |
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you would cuz your a 17 year old bigot but i hold that against you why hate cuz a guy wants to stuff another with his pork sword or a chick wants to get some carpet burn on her face... how does it honestly affect you? in what way does their sexual choices hurt you? are you afraid that if there was enough kechua people you would have to join in? would that be so bad?
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« Reply #76 on: September 18, 2009, 06:26:13 pm » |
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you would cuz your a 17 year old bigot but i hold that against you why hate cuz a guy wants to stuff another with his pork sword or a chick wants to get some carpet burn on her face... how does it honestly affect you? in what way does their sexual choices hurt you? are you afraid that if there was enough fruity people you would have to join in? would that be so bad?
It would be the worst possible scenario.
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« Reply #77 on: September 18, 2009, 06:30:54 pm » |
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dont knock it till you try it pretty boy 
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« Reply #78 on: September 18, 2009, 06:32:07 pm » |
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dont knock it till you try it pretty boy  That's not in my future plans.
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« Reply #79 on: September 18, 2009, 06:32:28 pm » |
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woaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa why would people post here?
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« Reply #80 on: September 18, 2009, 10:45:10 pm » |
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Just because the flesh has an urge doesn't automatically make it acceptable. How is that a valid argument? Many serial killers have an urge to kill, but that doesn't justify it.
I'm not getting into this argument, but to justify homosexuality because it is an inborn urge is counterintuitive. All people in all aspects of society have to control inappropriate urges on a regular basis in order to conform to their concept of morality.
I'm just sayin...
Because the sexual interaction between two mature, informed people totally impacts society in the way a serial killer would. Also, what I posted wasn't even arguing the morality of homosexuality - Kreater and I were simply discussing what leads to one being kechua. The only people that had raised an issue of the morality were quickly shot down.
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« Reply #81 on: September 18, 2009, 11:06:23 pm » |
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Pillow, your leading me to be fruity. <3
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« Reply #82 on: September 19, 2009, 08:51:36 am » |
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AWWWWW UR JUST TOO MUCH
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« Reply #83 on: September 19, 2009, 10:13:27 am » |
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You know, having a few more kechuas would do the world a better place. It would stop this ever increasing population.  Also, idc if someone is kechua; they aren't hurting or affecting anyone else.
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« Reply #84 on: September 19, 2009, 10:34:16 am » |
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Just because the flesh has an urge doesn't automatically make it acceptable. How is that a valid argument? Many serial killers have an urge to kill, but that doesn't justify it.
I'm not getting into this argument, but to justify homosexuality because it is an inborn urge is counterintuitive. All people in all aspects of society have to control inappropriate urges on a regular basis in order to conform to their concept of morality.
I'm just sayin...
Because the sexual interaction between two mature, informed people totally impacts society in the way a serial killer would. Also, what I posted wasn't even arguing the morality of homosexuality - Kreater and I were simply discussing what leads to one being fruity. The only people that had raised an issue of the morality were quickly shot down. Cmon pillow, you can't pick the one thing that is irrelevant with an analogy and use it to disprove the underlying point. No analogy is perfect. My point was that you can substitute ANY urge that is considered inappropriate behavior in society to make the point that just because an urge comes from within doesn't make it right. It shows a failure of an argument when you have to pick the irrelevant part of the analogy and ignore the main point. Obviously I wasn't comparing a serial killer's urge to kill as affecting society in the same way as a homosexual urge. Clearly that wasn't my point. Replace serial killer urge with urge to do anything you consider immoral and you will still get the same point. That point is that you can't justify an action merely because it is an inborn urge. So you clearly missed my point if you thought I was discussing the morality of homosexuality. I was discussing the ORIGIN of homosexuality just like you and K. But my point is that the origin is irrelevant to a discussion of homosexuality. Ultimately the discussion will eventually turn to morality, so an understanding that origin means nothing to that subsequent discussion is highly poignant.
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« Reply #85 on: September 19, 2009, 10:55:54 am » |
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at kreater: While it's true that it isn't proven homosexuality is genetic (I believe in the case of some kechuas that that's the cause, but that's just my opinion) it's definitely not a choice. You don't pick your sexual urges. Think about it this way: When you first began to develop a sexual lust, did you stop and decide if you liked boys or girls, or did you just like girls without thinking about it? I think the cause of a lot of homosexuality is simply personality and the environment one's raised in. Exactly. You just agreed to something as being natural and acceptable when last post you agreed it was an abomination. You have no clue what you're reading do you? Its because you guys are so good proving facts and stuff. I actually read every post at the thread. If you look carefully at the things I agreed they are from a different topic. First one says that I agree that homosexuality is not good and the other one is about how homosexuality is created. Resume: Homosexuality is not a good thing and I agree with your idea of how they became homo's. IMO.
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how the hell is kechua? IT DONT MATTER IF YOU fruity OR STRAIGHT CUZ IN THE END IM THE FLYEST GANGSTA I am Turboweasle, and you're my problem.
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« Reply #86 on: September 19, 2009, 11:11:26 am » |
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Also a proven fact is that people who have been sexually abused when they were kids can become homosexual.
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how the hell is kechua? IT DONT MATTER IF YOU fruity OR STRAIGHT CUZ IN THE END IM THE FLYEST GANGSTA I am Turboweasle, and you're my problem.
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« Reply #87 on: September 19, 2009, 02:17:31 pm » |
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This will take the kechua out of you guys.
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how the hell is kechua? IT DONT MATTER IF YOU fruity OR STRAIGHT CUZ IN THE END IM THE FLYEST GANGSTA I am Turboweasle, and you're my problem.
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« Reply #88 on: September 19, 2009, 11:02:20 pm » |
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WarM: You are an idiot, quit posting.
Ohio: That was relevant to the analogy. "Replace serial killer urge with urge to do anything you consider immoral and you will still get the same point. "
um dude The only difference between the two is that one's a specific example while the others a generic category. The same logic still applies.
" That point is that you can't justify an action merely because it is an inborn urge."
Homosexuality is deemed wrong by several here on the basis it's unnatural and a plea for attention. Thus, in this instance the idea that homosexuality is natural would be a rebuttal to the argument. To say that homosexuality is justified solely on its origin would be a dumb thing to say of course. But no one said that.
As for your 2nd paragraph, you need to re-read things.
". But my point is that the origin is irrelevant to a discussion of homosexuality" Actually your point was Natural=/=Moral. Tell me where you explained otherwise.
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« Reply #89 on: September 19, 2009, 11:11:01 pm » |
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" Ultimately the discussion will eventually turn to morality,"
K and I's discussion concluded without that occuring.
" so an understanding that origin means nothing to that subsequent discussion is highly poignant."
Well clearly there are some in this topic who feel otherwise in which the naturalness became a fitting rebuttal so it's not redundant. However, K and I's discussion in particular was not tied in with morality at all, it was 100% discussion of the origin making aforementioned point of yours you never made relevant, are in fact poignant in the same sense you were using the word.
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