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« Reply #90 on: September 20, 2009, 10:16:02 am » |
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I agree Ohio that your message came across as saying just because you have a natural urge doesn't mean it results in moral behavior. A lot of people consider sex out of wedlock or sex with anyone other than your spouse to be immoral. So, does that mean we should group swingers, anyone who had sex before they were married, alduterers, divorcees who have sex, and homosexuals all in the same group? They are all giving in to urges of the flesh for the same self-gratification. Based on the arguments I've seen it would appear that we either need to shun all of these groups in the same manner or we accept them. Do you know anyone who's had sex prior to marriage? Maybe because we know more people that do it and we may even do it ourself it makes it easier to accept that behavior. Or maybe it's not as immoral as some people believe. Where does a person's morals come from anyway? On a side note, how do you explain homosexuality in animals? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mammals_displaying_homosexual_behavior
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« Reply #91 on: September 20, 2009, 11:46:51 am » |
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On a purely moral standpoint, I would class all of those people together, yes. Immoral is immoral is immoral no matter who is doing it. Nobody is exepmt from temptation. But as I alluded earlier, we all have the ability to make choices with reguards to those temptations. If a female is throwing herself on my kawk with strong urges, as a man, my urges may be mutual, but I have the ability to say no. Same with a man. If a man puts his butt in front of another man's pen0r, his urges are mutual because ultimately they both want satisfaction. But there's a choice to be made. Should I have sex with this person and feel immoral, or should I abstain because I know its wrong? Either give into selfish ambitions, or have a stronger will. Simple concept.
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« Reply #92 on: September 20, 2009, 01:10:31 pm » |
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Just because the flesh has an urge doesn't automatically make it acceptable. How is that a valid argument? Many serial killers have an urge to kill, but that doesn't justify it.
I'm not getting into this argument, but to justify homosexuality because it is an inborn urge is counterintuitive. All people in all aspects of society have to control inappropriate urges on a regular basis in order to conform to their concept of morality.
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« Reply #93 on: September 20, 2009, 02:34:20 pm » |
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Sorry pillow, read K's last post. I am confirmed that a discussion about this topic CANNOT be completed without discussing morality. The only reason you could claim it wasn't before was because you simply hadn't concluded the discussion. You were just at the early stages discussing origin, but it still turned to morality, just as I predicted.
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« Reply #94 on: September 20, 2009, 04:23:08 pm » |
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WarM: You are an idiot, quit posting.
Ok. I was just giving my opinions, if you dont like it its ok (: Wanna party?
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« Reply #95 on: September 20, 2009, 04:38:28 pm » |
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« Reply #96 on: September 20, 2009, 08:35:05 pm » |
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how the hell is kechua? IT DONT MATTER IF YOU fruity OR STRAIGHT CUZ IN THE END IM THE FLYEST GANGSTA I am Turboweasle, and you're my problem.
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« Reply #97 on: September 20, 2009, 08:57:52 pm » |
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Yea! Bring a vise, car battery, cables, canola oil, and a hose. I was born like this, so don't judge me.
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« Reply #98 on: September 20, 2009, 09:12:23 pm » |
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« Reply #99 on: September 20, 2009, 09:41:11 pm » |
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« Reply #100 on: September 20, 2009, 10:31:28 pm » |
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K: Homosexuality in itself is dependent on thoughts, not action. I could go knock up several females right now and I would still have homosexual desire while none for females.
Also, homosexuals can't marry, so kind of stupid to abstain. Not to mention the primary reason pre-marital sex is deemed immoral is because of religion. It's entirely subjective, it's not a moral that can be logicly backed up on objective reasoning (ie kill, steal, etc)
Ohio: He was responding to term, not I. Our convo. had pretty much died. Regardless, that wasn't even your main point, no? I believe it was that naturalness=/=morally justified, which I've already responded to.
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« Reply #101 on: September 20, 2009, 10:33:38 pm » |
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WarM: You are an idiot, quit posting.
Ok. I was just giving my opinions, if you dont like it its ok (: Wanna party? Your gf is wrong and its disgusting and shouldn't be. wait ignore this post the irony is lost on him cause he's single AAAHAHAHA GOT'M
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« Reply #102 on: September 20, 2009, 10:40:03 pm » |
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"On a side note, how do you explain homosexuality in animals?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mammals_displaying_homosexual_behavior"
uh that's natural too?
Im sure d3 will tell you otherwise and that wild animals are actually being attention whores to up their social status tho.
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« Reply #103 on: September 20, 2009, 11:16:23 pm » |
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« Reply #104 on: September 21, 2009, 12:28:35 am » |
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IM FRMO L.A. SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA FOO THE WEST COAST WHERE EVERY BODY IS SOMEBODY AND THE GAME IS FAME DO EVERYTHANG WITH A BANG AND EVERYBODY WANNA KNOW WHAT SET YOU CLAIM
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