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« Reply #285 on: December 09, 2010, 06:31:49 pm »

You gotta admit, we had you goin' pretty good. only thing I regret is losing all my messages. I had a ton and some that I would have rather kept. I think Lakkshakk got fooled hardest.
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« Reply #286 on: December 09, 2010, 07:10:33 pm »

Sorry, but again your example isn't the same thing. Compare apples to apples dummy. I don't expect a valid analogy from a moron like you.

How so retard?  Explain how they are different or get your ingorant self out of here.  A moron like yourself simply saying there is a contradiction doesn't make it so.  I have bent over backwards to show you how basic logic and reasoning along with the scientific facts support my position that there is no contradiction.  Yet you are too stupid and/or hardheaded to accept it.  I even have now presented you with a perfect example that saying something is genetic =/= there being a gene for it.  And that very simply logical statement is PROOF positive that I didn't contradict myself.  You can attempt to say it is apples and oranges, but you are dead wrong.  The EXACT same principle applies to both scenarios.

So now put your small brain where your mouth is and make an attempt to back it up.  Explain to us all how my example of cancer and sexuality are different in concept.  Go ahead and try.  It is impossible.

I know I am arrogant and egotistical and love to argue.  Tell me something I don't know.  Regardless, that is irrelevant to the discussion at hand.  The fact that you rely upon it to attempt to make your argument proves how weak your position is.  Instead of attacking me, try attacking my point.  Oh wait, you can't.  Nevermind.

Like I said, I altready pointed out that you contradicted yourself. I don't need to go there again, feel free to re-read the posts, but I expect the same result as you seem to be getting dumber with each post. Oh hey, that reminds me of a saying. You're dumb as a post  Afro

You've contradicted yourself and have not proven otherwise. You still haven't shown me your genetic research.

That's how stupid you are. The fact that you are arrogant, love to argue, and always think you are right has everything to do with this. See, you do suck at being a lawyer. It shows that no matter what the cirman-juicestances you will insist that you are right, so whether you have a logical argument or not, nobody will believe you because you are known to have those flaws. It's called character flaws. I would assume you know about character witnesses....being such a fantastic lawyer.
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« Reply #287 on: December 10, 2010, 12:47:17 am »

Sorry, but again your example isn't the same thing. Compare apples to apples dummy. I don't expect a valid analogy from a moron like you.

How so retard?  Explain how they are different or get your ingorant self out of here.  A moron like yourself simply saying there is a contradiction doesn't make it so.  I have bent over backwards to show you how basic logic and reasoning along with the scientific facts support my position that there is no contradiction.  Yet you are too stupid and/or hardheaded to accept it.  I even have now presented you with a perfect example that saying something is genetic =/= there being a gene for it.  And that very simply logical statement is PROOF positive that I didn't contradict myself.  You can attempt to say it is apples and oranges, but you are dead wrong.  The EXACT same principle applies to both scenarios.

So now put your small brain where your mouth is and make an attempt to back it up.  Explain to us all how my example of cancer and sexuality are different in concept.  Go ahead and try.  It is impossible.

I know I am arrogant and egotistical and love to argue.  Tell me something I don't know.  Regardless, that is irrelevant to the discussion at hand.  The fact that you rely upon it to attempt to make your argument proves how weak your position is.  Instead of attacking me, try attacking my point.  Oh wait, you can't.  Nevermind.

Like I said, I altready pointed out that you contradicted yourself. I don't need to go there again, feel free to re-read the posts, but I expect the same result as you seem to be getting dumber with each post. Oh hey, that reminds me of a saying. You're dumb as a post  Afro

You've contradicted yourself and have not proven otherwise. You still haven't shown me your genetic research.

That's how stupid you are. The fact that you are arrogant, love to argue, and always think you are right has everything to do with this. See, you do suck at being a lawyer. It shows that no matter what the cirman-juicestances you will insist that you are right, so whether you have a logical argument or not, nobody will believe you because you are known to have those flaws. It's called character flaws. I would assume you know about character witnesses....being such a fantastic lawyer.
How dare you insult him. You need to have a little more respect for those who lead a more successful career. Don't be an ass hole.
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« Reply #288 on: December 10, 2010, 08:09:59 am »

@ DDD, I never said you believed what Term does.  I said you had to have aquiesced to his position about gentics if you agree that I contradicted myself.  And that is true.  The only way he is claiming I contradicted myself is based on an errant understanding of use of terms in genetics.  While I contend that I did not contradict myself because the way I used the terms actually gels without a contradiction if you understand genetics.  So since the discussion of the contradiction is not an abstract logic argument, but rather a disagreement on the use of the terms "genetic" and "in your genes", you cannot possibly weigh in on the issue of the contradiction without also making an implied statement about the genetics issue (regardless of what you believe).  Nice try though.

@ Term, not a single one of your replies concerning a possible contradiction answers my response that it is not a contradiction.  I went back and read them all.  You simply quoted two of my lines, and claimed a contradiction.  Then when I responded dozens of times that there is no contradiction, while citing several reasons why the two statements are not contradictory even though facially they appear that way.  You never once responded with any arguments to the contrary, you simply claimed over and over that it is a contradiction because your foolish concept of logic dictates to your brain that it is.  So while it is laughable that you judge my arguing and lawyering abilities, you somehow think you have actually put forth an argument that is a winner without even supporting it at all.  You now ask for my genetic research (which I provided sources to the human genome project already) and think I must prove to you the basic logical points I have proferred.  And that isn't how an argument works.  I put forth my logical proof, and you can either agree with it, or provide your own proof to the contrary.  It isn't my job to educate your ignorance.  If you can't grasp my argument, then educate yourself to counter.  I'm not playing teacher to you.
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« Reply #289 on: December 10, 2010, 08:50:33 am »

Just like I predicted. My proof can't hold a candle to yours  Cry I feel so sad because Ohio's logic is much better than mine.

Ohio Lawyer's Resume:

PhD in Biology
Expert in the field of genetics (I don't simply reference other people's research and claim to be an expert)
100% win rate as a Lawyer (My father is Satan)
Expert on the English language and it's interpretations, inferences, structure, etc.
Either a crappy MoH player or a Mediocre player with a tendency to lie
Expert in logic (accreditation to back it up)
Expert in debates (I call people stupid to take attention away from my mistakes)
Expert in dealing with Wikileaks
Expert in movie quotes
I'm never wrong (I will dance until I die to avoid admitting that I am wrong)
Biblical scholar

To be continued I'm sure...there are many other topics out there for you to be an expert on. It must be a burden to be so knowing.



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« Reply #290 on: December 10, 2010, 08:59:25 am »

...100% win rate as a Lawyer (My father is Satan)
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Good flick.   Afro


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« Reply #291 on: December 10, 2010, 09:01:01 am »

what proof?  Huh?

your statement that a contradiction exists does not and cannot constitute proof.

But thanks for the list of my accomplishments. It further cements the fact that rather than address the issues, you would rather defer to your weak sense of humor.  you would rather attack me than make a valid argument.  You call me arrogant, yet you ask us all to assume you are right because you say so and that by making fun of me you are somehow adding to your argument.  Talk about arrogance.

Just admit you were mistaken.  You tried to call me out for a perceived contradiction because of two facially dissimilar statements.  Once I proved to you that dispite the superficial contradiction, the actual relevant facts and cirman-juicestances render the two statements reconcilable, you have now resorted to childish gameplaying.  It is not my fault you simply cannot grasp the reconciliation.
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« Reply #292 on: December 10, 2010, 10:56:44 am »

Been there, showed you the contradiction. I disagree with your counter-argument. That's the point that seems to elude you. I don't agree that you have proven otherwise. So, I don't have to state anything beyond what I've already stated. You need to admit that you are mistaken, not me.

BTW, You started the personal attacks a long time ago. I just followed suit. You're just butthurt because the points I've made are accurate. I'm sorry if you got your feelings hurt, but all you had to do was admit the contradiction. I normally don't try to make people feel bad (even on the Internet) because I try to be a nice guy, but you were the one that turned it into this. It's your fault that we are at this point.

Just a word of advice, if you keep up this know-it-all attitude you will eventually rub everyone you know the wrong way. They might not tell you that, but they will certainly say it behind your back and have a different opinion of you. All I did was point out the contradiction and you "proceeded to become an expert" in every topic mentioned in this thread. Who's the arrogant one? Who's the know-it-all?
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« Reply #293 on: December 10, 2010, 11:51:21 am »

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I said you had to have aquiesced to his position

I don't give a flying fuck about Terminator's views or opinions on genetics or yours for that matter. I don't know enough to protest anyones beliefs. What I do know about, is arguments. A contradictory statement instantly nullifies the validity and consistency of an argument.

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While I contend that I did not contradict myself because the way I used the terms actually gels without a contradiction if you understand genetics.

I don't need to understand biology to know that someone is saying polar opposite statements. Unless you want to contest what "in our genes" means, you have no argument.

Now you don't believe that you contradicted yourself, which basically means you can't read. Terminator already displayed exactly where you went wrong and I will do it again for you.

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There does not exist a sexual orientation gene.

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There are many genes for male and female.  Clearly heterosexuality is in our genes.

How can you not see two contradictory statements? They are polar opposites. It doesn't take an expert in human genes to see this. This statement breaks the law of non-contradiction The people who derived what an argument is came up with the law of non-contradiction and you seriously want to say that it's not contradictory?

P = There exist a sexual orientation gene
`P= There exist no sexual orientation gene

This is a textbook example. I should submit this for the next copy of the Reasoning and Critical thinking and I'm sure they would use it.

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you have now resorted to childish gameplaying.


You actually want to tell people this? Last time I checked, you started this pages ago. This has to be the most hypocritical statement to date on here. You run out of arguments, so you fill the page with meaningless bullshit and random name calling.   

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But thanks for the list of my accomplishments. It further cements the fact that rather than address the issues, you would rather defer to your weak sense of humor.

Weak > None

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you would rather attack me than make a valid argument.

Take a page out of your own book. This is attacking Term, not making a valid argument. See how much time you waste?

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You call me arrogant, yet you ask us all to assume you are right because you say so and that by making fun of me you are somehow adding to your argument

I'm sure your character count would be half the size if you actually listened to your own advice.


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« Reply #294 on: December 10, 2010, 12:24:27 pm »

LOL term at thinking my feelings are hurt.  Quite the contrary.  I think it is funny that you still think you are right and think that your jokes accomplish some purpose.  As to the discussion, you showing me a perceived contradiction is not providing proof or counter arguments to my argument.  Learn to argue please.  Also, you saying you disagree with my counter argument is also not stating an argument but a position.  Once again, please learn to argue.  You have yet to attempt to REFUTE my counter argument with any sort of rebuttal.

And to DDD, you are now demonstrating you do not understand what we are talking about so please butt out (although terms understanding of the same issues is much like yours which is why he refuses to accept the fact that there is no contradiction).  Your logic example is horribly flawed.  You posed an argument for the fact that my two statements are facially contradictory.  I have already conceded that fact.  However you seem to not grasp that in logic, facially contradictory and actual contradiction are two different things.  If you take a litteral, non-contextual look at the two statements, they would appear to be contradicitons.  However, in the area of genetics, the two statements are actually not contradictory at all.  That is why it is necessary to apply genetics to the discussion in order to take a position.  You have refused to do so, so your position is invalid.  Once the specifics of genetics are applied, you can see there is no contradiction.  In genetics, a particular condition can be "in our genes" (or "genetic") without there being a specific gene (or location on the genome) for that particular trait or condition.  Refusal to acknowledge this fact is precisely why you and term insist you are correct when you are not.  Further, I said "there is no sexual orientation gene".  This is a basic and true statement.  Then I proceeded to say that HETEROSEXUALITY is in our genes.  Notice I did not say sexual orientation is in our genes.  That would be more of a contradictory statement.  But I didn't say that.  In my beliefs, homosexuality is a choice and is not genetic.  However, I believe heterosexuality is natural to the human condition.  So I don't view it as a sexual orientation, but rather simply "sexuality".  Homosexuality is a deviation from true sexuality.  And as such, my statements are not actually contradictory, although they are on their faces.

So given that, you simply cannot take a side in this without naturally also including the genetics issue.  And you cannot limit your position to a simple look at the words themselves as contradictory, but you must look at the concepts the words represent.  Any logic teacher would have explained that to you if you actually had taken a logic course. 
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« Reply #295 on: December 10, 2010, 12:56:54 pm »

You're hilarious Ohio. DDD is bang on. Take my advice and you will be much more successful in life Afro

I forgot to add one of the funniest resume items:

Expert in homosexuality  Afro

And based on your comments we'll probably be adding Expert in sense of humor or maybe just Expert in judging others sense of humor
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« Reply #296 on: December 10, 2010, 01:20:52 pm »

Cool.  Now that that's settled, how 'bout you fruits kiss and make up?   Tongue Kiss
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« Reply #297 on: December 10, 2010, 01:25:05 pm »

I will take into consideration genes for you and still prove your contradiction.

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In genetics, a particular condition can be "in our genes" (or "genetic") without there being a specific gene (or location on the genome) for that particular trait or condition.

So you are telling me that something that has no specific genes can still be in our genes? If there's no sexual orientation gene, heterosexuality is therefore not in our genes. It's physically impossible. No, I'm not a genetic expert but you clearly have zero knowledge on how genes actually work. What you fail to understand is that heterosexuality is a form of sexual orientation so if that gene doesn't exist, heterosexuality is not in our genes. For you to say otherwise destroys all credibility you have on the subject.  

Are you happy now? Does this suffice as taking genetics into consideration because your statements are still contradictory. Learn what sexual orientation is and that heterosexuality is part of sexual orientation.
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« Reply #298 on: December 10, 2010, 01:54:38 pm »

LOL DDD, that has been Term's position.  Yet it fails to take into account my examples from genetics.  If a particular disease is "genetic" (i.e. passed down from our parents), that doesn't mean there is a gene for that disease.  My prior example was Liver Cancer.  It is genetic and I am predisposed to it because my grandfather had.  However there is no cancer gene. 

Your argument completely fails to take into account how genetics work.  Many things that are "genetic" do not have genes themselves on our genome, but rather other parts of our genes that control other things that lead to them (i.e. male and female gender leading naturally to heterosexuality). 

THAT is my point.  You have once again proved a FACIAL contradiction but not an actual one.  Why is that so hard for you to understand?


And thanks for the advice that will make me so successful in life, Term.  I am glad I could take advice from a complete tool and idiot who clearly knows so much about logic, the law, and my current position in life.  Way to go man, you are awesome.
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« Reply #299 on: December 10, 2010, 02:09:55 pm »

What you fail to understand is that heterosexuality is a form of sexual orientation so if that gene doesn't exist, heterosexuality is not in our genes. For you to say otherwise destroys all credibility you have on the subject.  

Ah, so now I must conform to your belief system about sexuality.  I knew all along that was your's and term's positions.  I already said, I don't believe in sexual orientation in that way.  I believe humans are heterosexual by nature and homosexuality is a deviation of that norm.  So I disagree with you that heterosexuality is a form of sexual orientation.  I believe it is the ONLY natural sexual orientation.  To use the term "orientation" implies a person's "natural leanings".  And I disagree with that assertion. 

But I like how you revealed your true colors in stating that because I disagree with you I have lost credibility.  That is always a good position to take when it comes to credibility. LOL.  We clearly have opposite beliefs on the subject, but that doesn't mean one of us lost credibility for holding those beliefs.  This is the same thing I had to keep telling Term.  You are trying to impart your beliefs on the subject onto me in analyzing my argument and my credibility.  Did you ever stop to think your beliefs could be wrong?  Why don't you try analyzing my arguments in light of my own beliefs in order to claim that I contradicted myself?  Because that is the only way to find an actual contradiction.  I could apply my beliefs to your statements all day long and find all kids of contradictions.  But that doesn't make them real unless I consider them in light of your own beliefs.

Geez you two are dense.
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