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« Reply #375 on: December 13, 2010, 11:01:57 am »

Arguing what the definition of sexual orientation is like me arguing the definition of a cat. If I say a cat is actually a printer, I am wrong. It's not up for debate whether I believe it is a printer or not. Saying that sexual orientation isn't ones sexual attraction to a certain sex is ignorant and incredibly hilarious. What is sexual orientation then? You've used so many times, I figure you better tell me what your incorrect definition of the word is, just shits and giggles.
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« Reply #376 on: December 13, 2010, 11:14:25 am »

LOL so you just begun understanding what I was saying the last few pages (even though I've been saying it since this started) and I'm the one being silly?  LOL

But no, I am not wrong.  Debating a person using a reportive definition so that they understand it does not render my own beliefs invalid.  Sorry, you are wrong.  I can choose to debate you using terms that you will understand and still preserve the fact that I disagree with those terms.  I chose to use the phrase "sexual orientation" when stating there was no gene for it, so that the reader would know what I was speaking of, rather than posting an entire treatise on why I don't believe in sexual orientation as commonly understood. 

Maybe when dealing with an argumentative prick like yourself who is just out to attempt to catch people in false, and perceived contradictions, rather than add anything useful to the actual topic at hand, I should resort to writing such lengthy responses rather than simplify for the reader.

But then again, prior to your ignorant statements attempting to call me out, you had not interjected yourself into this discussion, so how could I have possibly predicted your response and crafted my phrasing just for you anyway? 


Keep going Ohio. You see no matter which path you choose, there is a contradiction. I had been involved in this thread, but hadn't seen it again until after you made some comments. I inserted myself into the thread just like you did (actually re-inserted). And at the beginning you hadn't made a contradiction IRShead. I started discussing the previous statements with you, Kreater jumped in, and it was only after a couple of pages that you began the contradictions. Sorry, but again you fail. If it were as simple as defining sexual orientation you would have done that long ago. You only decided to go down that path because you thought it would get you out of this mess. However, you forgot that you made statements on both sides already, so no matter side you choose now there is a contradiction.

Nice try, but you are still an egomaniac that will stop at nothing to avoid being exposed. Your beliefs are one thing, but the contraidctions show that you are full of IRS. Next time, make sure you are the smartest person in the room before you open your mouth  Afro
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« Reply #377 on: December 13, 2010, 11:19:18 am »

I dunno wtf is going on in this thread. I just checked "Who's online" and saw someone posting here. I've only seen the 1st and last pages of the thread.

okay.

Not sure if we're arguing whether or not people are born kechua, but here's my two cents:

I think people are born kechua. I don't think we just wake up one day and go "hey I wanna be kechua" or w/e. Maybe people don't realize they are kechua 'til they're older, but that's besides the point.

For a guy, you're either gonna watch straight/lesbian Adult-Oriented Material and get a boner, or think that it's gross and not get a boner.

Use Adult-Oriented Material to see if you are kechua or not.

okay I'm just rambling now
peace eazy
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between the 3 of them or how ever many where there one of them could of got the gun and pointed it at him and told him to gtfo. Its that simple he would of left no one raped murdered lives saved so on and so forth daugher be eating her captain crunch the next morning
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« Reply #378 on: December 13, 2010, 11:19:29 am »

kechua LMFAO
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between the 3 of them or how ever many where there one of them could of got the gun and pointed it at him and told him to gtfo. Its that simple he would of left no one raped murdered lives saved so on and so forth daugher be eating her captain crunch the next morning
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« Reply #379 on: December 13, 2010, 11:20:01 am »

it is not scientific at all.  It is social.  what makes you think it is scientific?  Do you know what science is?

Feel free to ask any doctor, or anyone with a biology background and they will tell you, that sexual orientation is the attraction towards a particular sex. For some reason, you feel this is not so.

not to mention that I disagree with a lot of what "science" says.  it is sad that you are such a blind sheep that you will consider a topic "not up for debate" simply because a scientific establishment says it is so.

What is there to be debated? If you disagree with sexual orientation ,you believe it's impossible for anyone to be attracted to each other.

Since when is a doctor an expert on lexicon?  Further, a doctor is a human that will give their opinion on a subject if asked, that doesn't mean what they say is scientifically proven.  If I were to ask a doctor what sexual orientation means, and he were to give me your definition, I can followup requesting his scientific data.  At that point, no doubt, he would state that he has none.  So what good would asking him be?

And again, as to your second point, I thought you didn't want to debate the substance of sexuality, just logic?  Because you would have to subscribe to an argument about the substance to debate this with me.  As I have stated, I believe the ONLY sexual desire that is natural in mankind is heterosexuality.  So therefore I can easily believe in attraction and still reject the modern concept of sexual orientation as a whole.  I believe homosexual attractions are the result of sin and deviance from nature. So no, rejecting your definition of sexual orientation does not have the result you think it does, because I do not simply ignore the concept of sexuality, simply replace the common perception with what I believe is truth.

Right, but you switch back and forth between the definitions when it suits your argument. You just stated that when you talked about sexual orientation before you were using the common definition (you didn't state at the time that it was not your definition). You continued in this manner until you thought it would bail you out of a contradiction. Now that you've been called on it, you resort to name calling again. Wow, that's surprising.

I wonder what other common definitions you don't believe in. What other debates have you been involved in and used common definitions and then switched back and forth between the common one and yours to avoid being detected as a non-expert in the subject.
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« Reply #380 on: December 13, 2010, 11:20:27 am »

That was about 20 pages ago, now it's about how little Ohio knows...
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« Reply #381 on: December 13, 2010, 11:43:14 am »

I dunno wtf is going on in this thread. I just checked "Who's online" and saw someone posting here. I've only seen the 1st and last pages of the thread.

okay.

Not sure if we're arguing whether or not people are born kechua, but here's my two cents:

I think people are born kechua. I don't think we just wake up one day and go "hey I wanna be kechua" or w/e. Maybe people don't realize they are kechua 'til they're older, but that's besides the point.

For a guy, you're either gonna watch straight/lesbian Adult-Oriented Material and get a boner, or think that it's gross and not get a boner.

Use Adult-Oriented Material to see if you are kechua or not.okay I'm just rambling now
peace eazy

Well!!!

/thread and all disscussion worldwide about it. Keihan solved it all!  Cheesy
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« Reply #382 on: December 13, 2010, 12:17:05 pm »

Keep calling me names and acting like I'M the egomaniac.  Seems to me like you disagree with me and continue to post here to prove some irrelevant contradiction in my phrasing.  You sir are the egomaniac.  I believe what I believe.  I attempted to relay my beliefs to you on a message board.  You didn't get it.  You would rather have a pissing match over semantics and phrasing.  I explained my thoughts on sexual orientation over and over.  Don't accept it, I don't care.  But you're not fooling anyone here that you aren't the one on an ego trip.  I'm just trying to discuss the topic of the thread.  You are the one with 20 pages of off-topic posts just trying to point out perceived contradictions while admittedly NOT making statements about the substance of the thread. 

I call THAT a contradiction.
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« Reply #383 on: December 13, 2010, 12:20:08 pm »

Apparently, you don't know the definition of contradiction either...
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« Reply #384 on: December 13, 2010, 12:21:33 pm »

Arguing what the definition of sexual orientation is like me arguing the definition of a cat. If I say a cat is actually a printer, I am wrong. It's not up for debate whether I believe it is a printer or not. Saying that sexual orientation isn't ones sexual attraction to a certain sex is ignorant and incredibly hilarious. What is sexual orientation then? You've used so many times, I figure you better tell me what your incorrect definition of the word is, just shits and giggles.

lol @ this ignorance.  A cat is a tangible thing with well established scientific information delineating it from other creatures.  Sexual orientation is a socially created concept devised in the last 50 years to fit into society's growing acceptance of homosexuality.  There is no hard data to support any such definition, only societal norms.  Comparing the two is ridiculous.  LOL.  A tangible animal and an abstract concept. LOL You are a smart one. 

Although if you understood logic at all, you would also understand that even "cat" is debateable.  Say a scientist uncovers an ancient animal with certain feline characteristics (which this type of thing happens regularly).  There is often a long scientific debate if this newly discovered animal is in fact a cat, and further, oftentimes such newly discovered beings help mold and modify the existing definition of the original term.  Species classifications change in their detail all the time because of this. 

Anything can be debated and NOTHING is exempt from it.  Thinking it is so just shows the limitations of your capacity to think and reason.
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« Reply #385 on: December 13, 2010, 12:25:31 pm »

Sexual orientation is a well established scientific concept. Something can be intangible and still have a concrete definition.
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« Reply #386 on: December 13, 2010, 12:28:28 pm »

Apparently, you don't know the definition of contradiction either...

hmm, saying one thing and doing another......sounds like a contradiction to me.

Maybe YOU don't know what it means:

Webster's dictionary:

Contradiction -- a logical incongruity; a situation in which inherent factors, actions, or propositions are inconsistent or contrary to one another.


Fits exactly what I said Term did by saying one thing and doing another, i.e. actions that are inconsistent to one another.
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« Reply #387 on: December 13, 2010, 12:31:50 pm »

Sexual orientation is a well established scientific concept. Something can be intangible and still have a concrete definition.

Give me one single scientific study to prove so.  It is most definitely NOT a well established scientific concept.  Just because you say it or believe it (or because society does) doesn't make it well established.
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« Reply #388 on: December 13, 2010, 12:35:34 pm »

I dunno wtf is going on in this thread. I just checked "Who's online" and saw someone posting here. I've only seen the 1st and last pages of the thread.

okay.

Not sure if we're arguing whether or not people are born kechua, but here's my two cents:

I think people are born kechua. I don't think we just wake up one day and go "hey I wanna be kechua" or w/e. Maybe people don't realize they are kechua 'til they're older, but that's besides the point.

For a guy, you're either gonna watch straight/lesbian Adult-Oriented Material and get a boner, or think that it's gross and not get a boner.

Use Adult-Oriented Material to see if you are kechua or not.

okay I'm just rambling now
peace eazy
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« Reply #389 on: December 13, 2010, 12:42:40 pm »

Keep calling me names and acting like I'M the egomaniac.  Seems to me like you disagree with me and continue to post here to prove some irrelevant contradiction in my phrasing.  You sir are the egomaniac.  I believe what I believe.  I attempted to relay my beliefs to you on a message board.  You didn't get it.  You would rather have a pissing match over semantics and phrasing.  I explained my thoughts on sexual orientation over and over.  Don't accept it, I don't care.  But you're not fooling anyone here that you aren't the one on an ego trip.  I'm just trying to discuss the topic of the thread.  You are the one with 20 pages of off-topic posts just trying to point out perceived contradictions while admittedly NOT making statements about the substance of the thread. 

I call THAT a contradiction.

You sir are the ultimate hypocrite. Who had an entire argument, called people stupid, etc. over the meaning of sentences, paragraphs, context, semantics, etc.? You did. You tried to rake DDD over the coals on that very subject. You felt like you were teaching him a lesson in English. You acted like a superior being and that you were indeed the expert. I merely pointed out a contradiction and I wasn't mean about it at first, I simply asked which side of the contradiction you truly believed. Then, in your rage, you took it down this path. I have clearly shown that you are not the expert you think you are. In doing so, it brings your credibility on this subject and other subjects into question. How could I possibly agree with your facts when you have contradicted yourself on some of the fundamental concepts of this entire debate. You can't decide whether sexual orientation includes homosexuality or not. One day you state that it does and the next day you state that it doesn't. You can't do that and expect to have your opinion taken seriously. So, it wasn't to simply show your mistakes, it was to show your mistakes, which in turn weakens your arguments and ultimately strengthens the opposing position. Being a lawyer, you must understand that technique.
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