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Title: paybacks a girl Post by: Permanent Poopface on September 28, 2010, 03:18:30 pm http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/news/story?id=5626300
At some point, Dallas Cowboys rookie wide receiver Dez Bryant was going to get his comeuppance. Teammate Roy Williams all but guaranteed that during training camp. Bryant made national news in training camp when he refused to carry Williams' pads after practice -- bucking the trend of veteran NFL players hazing rookies. Bryant later said he didn't know about such tradition. "I'm not doing it," Bryant said then. "I feel like I was drafted to play football, not carry another player's pads." Williams excused it, saying then that Bryant, who received $8.3 million in guaranteed money from his rookie contract, would just have to take the team out to dinner and get him some new shoes. Well, that dinner happened Monday night. The final tab: $54,896. Bryant took the offensive players out to Pappas Bros. Steakhouse. Williams, however, made sure Bryant got the message, inviting defensive players as well. And guess who was left holding the bill afterward. "They got the young fella," said Bryant's adviser, David Wells. "What could he say? He had to pay it unless he wanted to wash dishes for a month." Players ordered basically everything on the menu and even took home bottles of wine. After checking out the 90-page winebook, it's anybody's guess if anybody took home a bottle of Chateau Latour for $9,000. It's also possible a few players ordered a bottle of PlumpJack Reserve for $600. No word from Bryant or Williams about the evening ... yet. Title: Re: paybacks a girl Post by: Cadillak on September 28, 2010, 03:24:01 pm lol, awesome. he deserved that. no rookie should think they don't deserve to get hazed like everyone else.
Title: Re: paybacks a girl Post by: dudedudedude for Moderator on September 28, 2010, 03:38:36 pm If I were Dez Bryant, I would approach Roy Williams and tell him this: "I'm sorry I took your starting job and that 54 grand is nothing compared to what I will be making."
In all honesty, who the make sweet sensuous love is Roy Williams to do the hazing? If Randy Moss tells someone to carry his pads, you do it. If you just took the guys job, have him hand you your towel. Title: Re: paybacks a girl Post by: Cadillak on September 28, 2010, 03:47:51 pm Roy Williams ain't no scrub. And, it's a respect thing. In sports, there are certain rules that if you break, no one will ever trust you or have your back.
Title: Re: paybacks a girl Post by: Turboweasle on September 28, 2010, 03:55:55 pm People shouldn't have to essentially pledge fealty to someone simply because that someone, whoever they are, was there before them.
Respect is gained, not demanded or automatic. If Williams wanted the rookie to do something for him (and I don't give a damn about tradition in this instance), Williams should have gained his respect. I trust people I respect more than people who expect me to respect them based off archaic traditions created for the sole purpose of making the newbie feel inferior. Title: Re: paybacks a girl Post by: Cadillak on September 28, 2010, 04:00:33 pm you guys weren't athletes, were you
that's the way it is. you are the noob and you owe them respect cuz they were there before you. it's like that in all walks of life. cops, firefighters, military, etc... it's a guy thing i guess. i wouldn't think I was too good to show a little respect if I was the new guy. Title: Re: paybacks a girl Post by: Turboweasle on September 28, 2010, 04:02:12 pm I played football for three years and baseball for six years. >_>
I just disagree on the concept of hazing entirely. It's stupid. Title: Re: paybacks a girl Post by: the KR3AT3R on September 28, 2010, 04:34:15 pm I'd retaliate 10x harder. -_-
Title: Re: paybacks a girl Post by: dudedudedude for Moderator on September 28, 2010, 04:56:32 pm you guys weren't athletes, were you that's the way it is. you are the noob and you owe them respect cuz they were there before you. it's like that in all walks of life. cops, firefighters, military, etc... it's a guy thing i guess. i wouldn't think I was too good to show a little respect if I was the new guy. I don't know how it worked for you but as long as you were bigger than half the guys, none of that mattered. I play football now in University and there is the occasional hazing but if you are the backup, you don't get to haze. Quote Roy Williams ain't no scrub. You're right, he is an overpaid scrub. Title: Re: paybacks a girl Post by: Cadillak on September 29, 2010, 07:45:13 am well, i just don't think that dude had the right to say he's too good to carry someone's pads. that's acting like a **** in my book and I would be pissed about it too. it's not like they wanted him to wear a dress to practice or something.
Title: Re: paybacks a girl Post by: the KR3AT3R on September 29, 2010, 07:54:27 am Hazing should be fun/funny, not hurtful and expensive. Williams probably just got pissed or embarassed about the pads so payback ensued. I wouldn't have carried the pads either, b ut not because of cockiness or anything, but because they're his damned sweaty pads. Besides, it was an incident that happewned during practice. If it was something that hurt the team or if the rookie made a mistake during a game that cost them then I can see where you send a message, but this was immature.
Title: Re: paybacks a girl Post by: dudedudedude for Moderator on September 29, 2010, 12:44:48 pm well, i just don't think that dude had the right to say he's too good to carry someone's pads. that's acting like a girl in my book and I would be pissed about it too. it's not like they wanted him to wear a dress to practice or something. I think Dez Bryant had the right to, since he was going to be the starter. You don't do that to your key players. I'm sure as a rookie, no one did that to Urlacher or Ray Lewis. Title: Re: paybacks a girl Post by: Permanent Poopface on September 29, 2010, 12:47:50 pm tebow had to of gotten it the worse IMO
(http://i51.tinypic.com/29lnuo9.jpg) Title: Re: paybacks a girl Post by: dudedudedude for Moderator on September 29, 2010, 12:53:37 pm I'm sure he didn't mind considering how much he loves the bible.
Title: Re: paybacks a girl Post by: Cadillak on September 29, 2010, 12:55:06 pm I'm pretty sure the whole thing isn't meant to make the rookies feel like they are the vets little girls or anything. It's just a team tradition and it's not that big of a deal to carry someone's pads for them. He was acting like a prima donna cuz he felt he was above having to carry someone's pads. That is not something a team player would do. The vets were totally justified in putting him in his place w/ the dinner prank. That amount of money is chump change for him considering his contract anyway. It may have been a little excessive, but that just shows how pissed off the vets were at him for acting like a doosh and making a big deal out of something everyone else has to go through when they are rookies. Now he will be considered the **** on the team unless he actually owned up to it and took the dinner prank like a man w/out complaining.
Title: Re: paybacks a girl Post by: dudedudedude for Moderator on September 29, 2010, 12:58:49 pm I'm Jerry Jones will be pissed at all this since Dez Bryant is greatest WR to come out of college since Randy Moss. The fact of the matter is, Roy Williams chose Bryant because his job was getting taking by Bryant. In my opinion, Bryant has every right to rip on Williams, not the other way around. It might be team tradition but last time I checked, Bryant is 10x better than Roy Williams.
Title: Re: paybacks a girl Post by: Laughing Turd on September 29, 2010, 01:12:01 pm I don't carry anyones **** unless I'm throwing it in a huge steaming pile of dog ****. I agree with Dude. I don't believe in anyones traditions but mine and you can earn my respect on the field. Like D said, if I just took your job then you can carry my ****, especially if I beat you coming out the gates.
This is mostly because I'm quite arrogant myself. I got too much pride to get ordered to carry someones crap when I don't even know them and took their job. I'll carry any friends gear for them because they are my friend and I'm humble enough to do that. Not for some random guy ordering it. Title: Re: paybacks a girl Post by: Cadillak on September 29, 2010, 02:43:48 pm He's not some random dude. Everyone had to carry pads. They weren't singling him out. He's just an arrogant person and now the team won't trust him or have his back. If this were the military, would you want him to have your back, or the dude that is a team player. It just shows a lack of respect, and obvious insecurity on his part. What is his reasoning? "I don't wanna look like a wimp by carrying someone's pads for them."
Title: Re: paybacks a girl Post by: dudedudedude for Moderator on September 29, 2010, 04:03:57 pm It's a sign of weakness towards Roy Williams in my opinion.
Title: Re: paybacks a girl Post by: the KR3AT3R on September 29, 2010, 04:07:00 pm Well, yeah, his ego was crushed and he wanted revenge. What a buster.
Title: Re: paybacks a girl Post by: Cadillak on September 29, 2010, 04:16:28 pm Roy Williams didn't do this by himself. b)
The whole team did. Title: Re: paybacks a girl Post by: Laughing Turd on September 29, 2010, 04:23:30 pm well yeah dude. Im arrogant that way too. If this was war I'd have anyones back and I'd gladly take bullets for comrades. If we fought back to back or even trained back to back, I'd pick his things up if he asked. If some dude expected me to carry his stuff just because he was there first then no, I wouldnt.
I dunno man, carrying someones stuff doesn't mean they are any more trustworthy than not carrying his stuff. If they don't get HIS back for not "respecting" a stupid tradition than they are they are the crappy teammates. It has nothing to do with the game. Title: Re: paybacks a girl Post by: dudedudedude for Moderator on September 29, 2010, 06:02:05 pm Roy Williams didn't do this by himself. b) The whole team did. It just comes down to who is doing the hazing. My second day practicing, one of the OLB's threw his pads over top of me. He is the defensive captain and has been here for 4 years so I took my lumps. If the guy who backs me up asks me to carry his pads, just because he has been here for 2 years, I'd laugh at him. Title: Re: paybacks a girl Post by: Permanent Poopface on September 29, 2010, 06:10:48 pm I can't believe you guys are still going on about this lol
Title: Re: paybacks a girl Post by: Laughing Turd on September 29, 2010, 06:14:17 pm shut up and carry my sack dave. im sore and ive played bc2 longer than you. >:(
Title: Re: paybacks a girl Post by: Permanent Poopface on September 29, 2010, 06:19:25 pm just use a wheel barrel when you walk around, thats what I do
Title: Re: paybacks a girl Post by: the KR3AT3R on September 29, 2010, 06:25:45 pm Bwahaahahahahahaaa! :D
Title: Re: paybacks a girl Post by: Cadillak on September 30, 2010, 08:16:16 am lol
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Title: Re: paybacks a girl Post by: Cadillak on September 30, 2010, 09:03:28 am she's pretty cute too ^-^ bet she's from Oklahoma though :-[ |