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Title: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 "The Wii U Topic" Post by: xCA3Nx on April 25, 2011, 06:57:28 pm CNBC.com | 25 Apr 2011
Faced with rapidly declining sales and a less enthusiastic than expected reception to its newest handheld gaming device, Nintendo has confirmed that it will be releasing a successor to the Wii in 2012. A prototype of the new device, which has been rumored for the past several weeks, will be unveiled at E3, the video game industry's annual trade show in June (2011)...The company announced plans for the new system, which it dubbed a "successor" to the Wii, in a short statement issued in conjunction with the earnings. It declined to give further details about how the system would differentiate itself from the Wii and existing competitors. "As for the details of exactly what it will be, we have decided that it is best to let people experience it for themselves at E3," said Satoru Iwata, Nintendo's president and CEO. "So I won't talk about specific details today, but it will offer a new way of playing games within the home." The fact that the new console will be playable at E3 surprised some in the industry, who noted that could indicate a launch in the first half of 2012. If true, that would be sooner than some were expecting it, but still not soon enough for everyone. "Nintendo waited too long," says Wedbush Securities Michael Pachter. "The drop dead date they should have done this by is last Christmas. I think, essentially, they're simply coming up to speed with this generation. … Remember, there's already 8 million (PlayStation) Move (controllers) out there and 10 million Kinects. … Nintendo has already lost the opportunity to sell 'Wii 2' to 6 or 7 million households, who have upgraded." Life to date, the 5-year old Wii has sold 86 million units. The 3DS, Nintendo's new handheld gaming system (that shows games in stereoscopic 3D without the need for special glasses) had what the company called a "smooth" start – but fell short of expectations. The system sold more than 3.61 million units, a bit short of the 4 million units Nintendo had forecast..."The aftermath of the Great East Japan Earthquake is unpredictable," the company said. "Nintendo has not suffered any direct damage which will significantly alter our production..." Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: xCA3Nx on April 25, 2011, 07:05:09 pm I will know in June 2011 whether I want a PS3 with Move or next gen Nintendo. I am also curious to see if BF3 for PS3 supports the Move.
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Ps358 on April 25, 2011, 07:16:50 pm im sure it will support move
but im really stoked to see what nintendo has in store maybe they kept everything secret and have something huge or maybe its gonna bomb Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Laughing Turd on April 25, 2011, 07:18:09 pm i for one hope nintendo gets it right this time. the wii bombed (face it mex) and it might be really late to catch up but still, ive always LOVED the nintendo games. id love to finally see them surrounded in hd beauty and good controls. i love my ps3 a lot and this console made it likely that ill buy the next sony console. i dont mind have this and the new wii2 so long as the features are similar to ps360.
friend codes, im out. crappy online/lag, im out no voice chat function, im out. impress me nintendo Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: June on April 25, 2011, 07:26:51 pm friend codes, im out. crappy online/lag, im out no voice chat function, im out. impress me nintendo ^ Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Ps358 on April 25, 2011, 07:42:19 pm friend codes are the one damn thing i hated
LT made good points Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Joker on April 25, 2011, 10:12:57 pm friend codes, im out. Not nintendo's fault. Just look at MoH. No friend codes. Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: MEX on April 25, 2011, 10:12:57 pm Sigh.....
How could the Wii have bombed if it's the number 1 console right now? Yes it doesn't have HD or amazing graphics (look at recent PC games if you think PS3 has amazing graphics btw), but it invented the motion control and made the videogame industry grow even more by reaching a wider audience. People who haven't played in a long time or never. It also kept the Ninty faithful happy by releasing huge first party games like Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Mario Galaxy 1 & 2, Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime 3, Metroid: Other M, etc. It's true that online has now become a bigger factor and I can assure you that Wii 2 will NOT have friend codes like the Wii where you have to use multiple friend codes to register people. The 3DS uses only ONE (think of it as your psn name) universal friend code so that's a sign that the successor to the Wii will use a universal friend code. If the Wii has headset support that obviously also means its successor will too. It will have HD graphics since a lot more people have HD televisions now. Now the lag online will obviously have to be dealt with. Playing Super Street Fighter IV 3D online is great, but it does have lag if you face people from far away. I believe even the PS3 version has lag for fighting games too. It's still too early to tell if the online lag has been fixed since the 3DS only has SSFIV 3D as its only online game, but i'm sure Nintendo is aware of this. I never played an online PS2 or Xbox game, but i'm sure they were laggy too. The Wii just can't handle online like the PS3 & 360, but its successor will. I mean come on, its rumored to be way more powerful than the 360 and PS3! Online should be no problem. Well i'll end my rant with this..... Just wait until E3 when Nintendo will once again steal the show and reveal the Wii's successor. Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: GUMBY-KID on April 26, 2011, 10:49:23 am I saw this on the news last night, the name of it will be Nintendo Stream, and it will have HD graphics. But I'm not getting it until they release a Zelda game for it. They are so **** late though, they will be six years late for the HD aspect.
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Cadillak on April 26, 2011, 11:11:25 am just posted this in another thread but oh well...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13772_3-20057200-52.html?tag=TOCcarouselMain.0 Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Ps358 on April 26, 2011, 04:33:31 pm I saw this on the news last night, the name of it will be Nintendo Stream THANK GODthe name wii SUX Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: IRSmoh on May 02, 2011, 02:16:20 pm I thought I saw somewhere in an article that Nintendo is not even contemplating "3D" games, well as much as I think the graphics for it would be ****... Look at it, ps3 and xbox came in when HD tvs were uncommon.. and now they are everywhere. Nintendo has a desire it seems to stay behind the times and only just barely "catch up". There online is one of the worst things I've ever seen... its lag to **** no matter what.. and they will need to invest in some actual servers this time around or die off..
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Ps358 on May 02, 2011, 03:32:40 pm orly
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Cadillak on May 02, 2011, 03:57:37 pm I don't think 3D is going to get big... at least not for a long time. First, it's way too expensive. Second, you have to wear stupid looking expensive ass glasses. Third, everyone just shifted over to LCD/Plasma and most people aren't gonna buy a newer HD tv just to get a 3D capable one... especially in a crappy economy.
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Laughing Turd on May 02, 2011, 06:32:35 pm agreed lakkus. i got my tv in 08 and it still looks good enough. im not getting another tv for at least a year i think.
although, there are some pretty nice ones out there... Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: MEX on May 02, 2011, 06:45:43 pm We only have one hd tv and it's one of the 2007 models. It's a 64 inch tv I think so that's where I see all my bluray stuff.
I'll definitely need an hd tv in my room once the new Nintendo console comes out. Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: IRSmoh on May 03, 2011, 12:24:28 am I don't think 3D is going to get big... at least not for a long time. First, it's way too expensive. Second, you have to wear stupid looking expensive ass glasses. Third, everyone just shifted over to LCD/Plasma and most people aren't gonna buy a newer HD tv just to get a 3D capable one... especially in a ****ty economy. Gotta agree here too.. As nice as it is until 3D is done in such a manner it looks better than HD and you do not have to wear graphics + it wont strain your eyes. I'm not getting something that deals with it. (always been having headaches watching them.. blegh damn blue and red glasses.. now this shit that messes up your vision so you can "see") Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: MG Maxdaddy on May 03, 2011, 11:22:52 pm I know I'll have to get one. I've always been a nintendo supporter. First nintendo came out when I was about 12 so I've tried every one. I know, I'm an old fart :P. They revolutionized the gaming industry. I like the idea of the touch screen on the controller.
And c'mon... you know all you haters are gonna have to get one b) Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: MEX on May 04, 2011, 11:16:12 am I know I'll have to get one. I've always been a nintendo supporter. First nintendo came out when I was about 12 so I've tried every one. I know, I'm an old fart :P. They revolutionized the gaming industry. I like the idea of the touch screen on the controller. And c'mon... you know all you haters are gonna have to get one b) I love you. Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: MG Maxdaddy on May 04, 2011, 07:33:50 pm I know I'll have to get one. I've always been a nintendo supporter. First nintendo came out when I was about 12 so I've tried every one. I know, I'm an old fart :P. They revolutionized the gaming industry. I like the idea of the touch screen on the controller. And c'mon... you know all you haters are gonna have to get one b) I love you. :) Now I feel special Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: MEX on May 10, 2011, 01:56:13 pm http://e3.nintendo.com/
This is the official Nintendo link to view their E3 presentation live! O0 June 7th 9 AM PDT G4 will also be broadcasting the event on tv! Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Cadillak on May 10, 2011, 02:00:02 pm http://e3.nintendo.com/ This is the official Nintendo link to view their E3 presentation live! O0 June 7th 9 AM PDT jesus christ mex excited much? that's almost a month away... lol :D Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Ps358 on May 10, 2011, 04:18:00 pm hell, im excited
who knows maybe the stream will come out before psn lol Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Cadillak on May 10, 2011, 05:56:44 pm hell, im excited who knows maybe the stream will come out before psn lol lol fack u :P Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: MEX on May 11, 2011, 11:17:28 am hell, im excited who knows maybe the stream will come out before psn lol lol Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: MEX on June 06, 2011, 10:31:16 pm http://e3.nintendo.com/
This is the official Nintendo link to view their E3 presentation live! June 7th 9 AM PDT G4 will also be broadcasting the event on tv! Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Ps358 on June 08, 2011, 10:41:54 am is wii u the new console...b/c i lol'd
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: jd111 on June 10, 2011, 12:08:04 pm So... it looks like playing FPSs on this new console is going to be pretty cumbersome...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p99ghcy450E&feature=player_embedded#at=297 Also, why are they letting this newb play the game at the preview conference? He sucks at the game! Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: COOLH4ND_103 on June 17, 2011, 06:57:44 pm So... it looks like playing FPSs on this new console is going to be pretty cumbersome... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p99ghcy450E&feature=player_embedded#at=297 That shotty sho do look sweet! Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: xCA3Nx on June 20, 2011, 09:50:54 pm So... it looks like playing FPSs on this new console is going to be pretty cumbersome... Yeah, I have no interest playing FPS with that fruity dual analog with flat screen U controller. There is speculation that Wii U will support Wii motion plus (Wiimote), Wii Zapper and CCPro for FPS and other games on Wii U, however, it is all just speculation at this point. If Wii U supports the Wiimote (Wii motion plus) for all games I will definitely get the Wii U. If Wii U is played dual analog only with the dual analog with flat screen U controller (and CCpro presumably) the Wii U has no place in my home. I am disappointed that PS3 MW3 & BF3 may not support the PS3 Move (not announced at E3 with Move compatibility)? I can play MW3 on original Wii (at least it appears so) but at some point I want to play the COD and EA Battlefield series with motion control in high definition. Dual analog is not for me, I need something to physically point with :'( Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: MG Maxdaddy on August 06, 2011, 10:23:07 pm So what I'm hearing now is that the Wii U is basically the regular wii but with the new controller plugged in it. The new controller has all the new proccessors and whatnot to step the wii up to the HD and stuff.
They're saying that basically you will be able to just get the new controller and plug it into your old Wii and it will be equal to the Wii U. If this is the case, I kinda like the idea of just upgrading your existing Wii instead of investing in a whole new system. Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: The Krazy One on August 07, 2011, 09:25:58 am I'm not going to quote you since this post is right after yours but the info you heard couldn't be more wrong.
The Wii U is the next Nintendo console. (http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/4dee630b4bd7c85e09240000/nintendo-wii-u-console.jpg) You've seen the controller already. (http://indiaaide.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/nintendo-wii-u-console1.png) It wouldn't make sense for the controller to be able to connect to the Wii seeing how the Wii U will be in HD. It's also apparently stronger than the PS3. Also, since the Wii U will be backwards compatible to the Wii and considering all the playable demos were using the Wii Remote with the Wii U controller means that all the Wii controllers can be used for the Wii U. Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: MG Maxdaddy on August 07, 2011, 10:36:36 am I don't know, I think you're right. This was from a conversation I had with Baddaddy. I couldn't see how it would work either. BD usually knows what he is talking about, but this did sound kinda crazy to me too.
I will have to ask him where he heard this and if he has any info on it. He also mentioned something about how the big 3 game companies are getting a little worried about the cloud gaming systems coming out. Onlive has over 2 million customers already and there are two more coming out. Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: xCA3Nx on August 07, 2011, 09:27:01 pm He also mentioned something about how the big 3 game companies are getting a little worried about the cloud gaming systems coming out. Onlive has over 2 million customers already and there are two more coming out. Go to the Gamefaqs link below for extensive conversation and information about Wii U. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/631516-wii-u We got a Vizio and various internet applications like Netflix were built in, I think soon OnLive cloud gaming application will be built into some flatscreens so you buy the TV, buy a compatible dual anolog controller, subscribe to OnLive games and play (no console needed). Consoles still have life I think with innovations like the Wiimote, PS3 Move, Kinect, Wii U tablet controller and maybe future virtual reality (a fruity helmut you wear on you head b) ). But if you like to play dual analog (like the millions of PS360 users who line up to buy the latest COD every November) you can play dual analog on PC, any present or future console and now cloud gaming like OnLive. Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: NyBxJkw718 on September 17, 2011, 09:04:52 pm Wii is still the best!!!
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: IRSmoh on September 20, 2011, 05:56:42 am Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: MEX on September 22, 2011, 12:49:04 pm Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: GiantTurkey on October 09, 2011, 10:46:59 pm anyone else realize that wii u closely resembles wii unite? i don't think it's a coincidence.
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Ps358 on October 10, 2011, 06:23:03 am No.
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: MEX on October 10, 2011, 12:03:06 pm anyone else realize that wii u closely resembles wii unite? i don't think it's a coincidence. It's a blessing in disguise. We don't have to change the name of our website because it'll still be quite relevant to the newest Nintendo console lol. Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: GiantTurkey on October 10, 2011, 08:27:25 pm even though almost everyone plays ps3 now.
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: IRSmoh on October 10, 2011, 09:00:12 pm *cough* all>nintendo
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: MEX on October 10, 2011, 10:32:34 pm even though almost everyone plays ps3 now. lol true Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: banthaPudu on October 10, 2011, 11:53:11 pm I'll have to see what they have to offer.
I was a loyal Wii enthusiast for a long time but it was just disappointing how Nintendo did not take care of their fan base. They are fond of sitting on their successes until it dries out. Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: GiantTurkey on October 11, 2011, 12:33:35 am *cough* all>nintendo okay, i'd like you to state one game series that is better than legend of zelda. try. nintendo games are almost always ranked number one for best games of all time, whether it be super mario or loz. the wii u is going to be a big step up from all past systems, and it'll probably expand into more **** gamer games (like fps's) while still withholding their traditional family games (mario, loz, etc.) Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Tiger on October 11, 2011, 02:33:21 am lolfanboi
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: IRSmoh on October 11, 2011, 08:18:53 am lolfanboi ^^^^^^^^Although I should have specified. Nintendo is well known for being a **** about all DLC for any game. On top of that since even the N64 vs ps1 wars started happening.. the ps1 had more power and better graphics over all than the N64. and the spread just continued to split further and further apart from there... Sure the N64 was a 64 bit system and the Ps1 was a 32 bit.. but the processor was faster for the ps1, and coupled with the disc drive made games overall run faster. As for the modern day game differences.. Wii VS ps3/360 the wii lacks RAM/GPU/Processor/storage.. everything, the wii lacks everything. The ps3/360's are running on more modernish graphics cards that are capable of running 720p-1080p (scaled up in the case of the 360.) whilst having 4 core processors running around 3.2ghz and 60+ gigs of storage. Nintendo is saying that their new system will barely beat the ps3. Um... Congratulations you are comparing yourself to almost 6 year old tech and saying you are slightly better. Congratulations. The ps4/720 will come out and Nintendo loyalist will be complaining yet again that their system can't run it and wondering why. -On the part of the PC. All the specs will always be better for the games, I don't even need to go there. As for the "fun" levels of each system that is up to each person to determine, however for power and the core stats that lets developers make more games/better ones, Nintendo has been losing ever since it had a competitor. -Anyone that says "sales means that the Wii is better than the ps3/360" needs to compare the proper stats and not the sale numbers first. That has never been what the console debate was about. Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Tiger on October 11, 2011, 08:33:37 pm Well said IRS. I do agree that the LoZ series is one of my favorites but they can't solely depend on a few series to maintain a console. Like IRS said, even when the Wii U is better graphically than the PS3/360, it would be a dismal failure if it wasn't considering what PC's are able to do nowadays. When Microsoft and Sony release new consoles, the Wii U will be left in the dust graphically and overall running power. I'm not saying what they do with their games will suck, I'm just comparing core consoles.
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: GiantTurkey on October 11, 2011, 09:14:11 pm exactly. but when you start saying that nintendo sucks it's just wrong, because everything you know about gaming pretty much started with them.
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Tiger on October 11, 2011, 09:37:51 pm Where did I say Nintendo sucked? And Pong > Consoles.
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Ps358 on October 12, 2011, 06:23:13 am They were good, now they suck.
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: MEX on October 12, 2011, 11:00:10 am Hey hey hey! Stop bashing Nintendo! >:(
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: IRSmoh on October 12, 2011, 11:56:19 am Hey hey hey! Stop bashing Nintendo! >:( I'm not fully bashing Nintendo.. just saying they stopped working on power and graphics and kinda lost a huge chunk of potential money by going with under powered systems. I still don't get why you love Nintendo so much... I used to be the same way too, but I got tired of all the male cattle dung and the lag we were forced to deal with. It's not good for gaming D: Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: The Krazy One on October 12, 2011, 06:06:35 pm I'd like to point out that I'm a Nintendo fan. But I just had to point some things out here. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Although I should have specified. Nintendo is well known for being a **** about all DLC for any game. On top of that since even the N64 vs ps1 wars started happening.. the ps1 had more power and better graphics over all than the N64. and the spread just continued to split further and further apart from there... Sure the N64 was a 64 bit system and the Ps1 was a 32 bit.. but the processor was faster for the ps1, and coupled with the disc drive made games overall run faster. Nintendo is saying that their new system will barely beat the ps3. Um... Congratulations you are comparing yourself to almost 6 year old tech and saying you are slightly better. Congratulations. The ps4/720 will come out and Nintendo loyalist will be complaining yet again that their system can't run it and wondering why. -Anyone that says "sales means that the Wii is better than the ps3/360" needs to compare the proper stats and not the sale numbers first. That has never been what the console debate was about. I'll first reply to the bolded. Nintendo is fine with doing DLC as long as you don't have to pay for it. They are fine with other developers charging for DLC but they won't do that themselves (basically Nintendo themselves will only do free DLC). That is their stand and what they'll be doing for the Wii U. The graphics thing just seems wrong with the N64 and PS1. I'd say look at the best looking games on each console and compare those. About the Wii U barely beating out the PS3 thing, various 3rd parties have said it's more capable than the PS3/360 (not in those words exactly but hopefully you get my point). Also, apparently the developers working on Wii U games have said the development kits they are using are not the final product. I know more consoles are likely on the way though. The sales sentences you posted. I'm not saying the sales makes the console better but saying that console debates aren't about sales isn't completely true. From arguments that I've heard back then sales are usually brought up. There are people that gloated when the PS3 for a week or two (don't remember) beat the Wii in sales. Then there was the time when people didn't consider the Wii to be in the same market as the PS3/360 but when the Wii is beaten in sales they take it back and say it is. I'm not fully bashing Nintendo.. just saying they stopped working on power and graphics and kinda lost a huge chunk of potential money by going with under powered systems. The Wii is Nintendo's most successful console and the DS is their most successful handheld. You may be right about potential money but they made a lot this generation. Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: MEX on October 12, 2011, 06:25:03 pm Well said my friend O0
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: IRSmoh on October 12, 2011, 07:04:07 pm I'd like to point out that I'm a Nintendo fan. But I just had to point some things out here. Correct me if I'm wrong. Although I should have specified. Nintendo is well known for being a **** about all DLC for any game. On top of that since even the N64 vs ps1 wars started happening.. the ps1 had more power and better graphics over all than the N64. and the spread just continued to split further and further apart from there... Sure the N64 was a 64 bit system and the Ps1 was a 32 bit.. but the processor was faster for the ps1, and coupled with the disc drive made games overall run faster. Nintendo is saying that their new system will barely beat the ps3. Um... Congratulations you are comparing yourself to almost 6 year old tech and saying you are slightly better. Congratulations. The ps4/720 will come out and Nintendo loyalist will be complaining yet again that their system can't run it and wondering why. -Anyone that says "sales means that the Wii is better than the ps3/360" needs to compare the proper stats and not the sale numbers first. That has never been what the console debate was about. I'll first reply to the bolded. Nintendo is fine with doing DLC as long as you don't have to pay for it. They are fine with other developers charging for DLC but they won't do that themselves (basically Nintendo themselves will only do free DLC). That is their stand and what they'll be doing for the Wii U. The graphics thing just seems wrong with the N64 and PS1. I'd say look at the best looking games on each console and compare those. About the Wii U barely beating out the PS3 thing, various 3rd parties have said it's more capable than the PS3/360 (not in those words exactly but hopefully you get my point). Also, apparently the developers working on Wii U games have said the development kits they are using are not the final product. I know more consoles are likely on the way though. The sales sentences you posted. I'm not saying the sales makes the console better but saying that console debates aren't about sales isn't completely true. From arguments that I've heard back then sales are usually brought up. There are people that gloated when the PS3 for a week or two (don't remember) beat the Wii in sales. Then there was the time when people didn't consider the Wii to be in the same market as the PS3/360 but when the Wii is beaten in sales they take it back and say it is. I'm not fully bashing Nintendo.. just saying they stopped working on power and graphics and kinda lost a huge chunk of potential money by going with under powered systems. The Wii is Nintendo's most successful console and the DS is their most successful handheld. You may be right about potential money but they made a lot this generation. Fair enough. To be honest though.. I have never seen many DLC's for any Nintendo game whilst a game on any other console seems to usually have some kind of DLC for it (paid or not.) As for the power/technology, I do agree, for now. Nintendo has had a longer chance to make a "Modern" gaming system now than Sony/Microsoft has, I expect them to have a better format for coding the game. But again, they are comparing it to 6 year old tech and act like its amazing that they are able to do this. Obviously the Wii U will be more powerful for a year or two, but when the next gen consoles come out it will again be demolished by the processors/graphics cards available for the PS4/720. Graphics can always be debated.. as for IMO the one system with the most crisp graphics (most distinct differences/nicest looking for its time) was the N64, however I do remember a lot of the games I played on the ps1 having a higher poly count than a lot of the Nintendo games I played. < I very well may be wrong, its just how things appear. Again, I do agree on the sails thing also, but you have to admit.. if Nintendo had come out with a console on par with the ps3/360 they would have seen an extra couple million sales in their consoles as people that bought the other systems would have purchased theirs. Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Tiger on October 13, 2011, 12:09:08 am I lol'd at "never seen many"... grammar fail. Rock Band 2 has DLC for the Wii, I bought some songs with Wii Points. (years ago)
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: The Krazy One on October 13, 2011, 04:23:14 pm Well we know there has been DLC for the Wii. Guitar Hero, Rock Band, Mega Man, Final Fantasy and even Animal Crossing (a 1st party game).
I wanted to go back to something. Nintendo is saying that their new system will barely beat the ps3. Um... Congratulations you are comparing yourself to almost 6 year old tech and saying you are slightly better. Congratulations. The ps4/720 will come out and Nintendo loyalist will be complaining yet again that their system can't run it and wondering why. As for the power/technology, I do agree, for now. Nintendo has had a longer chance to make a "Modern" gaming system now than Sony/Microsoft has, I expect them to have a better format for coding the game. But again, they are comparing it to 6 year old tech and act like its amazing that they are able to do this. Obviously the Wii U will be more powerful for a year or two, but when the next gen consoles come out it will again be demolished by the processors/graphics cards available for the PS4/720. Again, I do agree on the sails(sales) thing also, but you have to admit.. if Nintendo had come out with a console on par with the ps3/360 they would have seen an extra couple million sales in their consoles as people that bought the other systems would have purchased theirs. Nintendo never said the bolded. If they did, provide some proof. The only developers that have been comparing the consoles have been 3rd parties. This next sentence is my opinion. There could be the chance that the power situation could be like the beginning of this generation (360 can handle itself against the stronger PS3 because of development differences). The thing about a more powerful console back then would have made more money has its downfalls which the 360 and PS3 suffered through. Parts would be more expensive which would bring the price to make the console up and in that case would have to choose a different price for the console. Basically making a price suitable for the consumer but also (in Nintendo's case) making sure that they make a profit from every console sold. It is usually to make a suitable price for consumers but to avoid selling at a huge loss so eventually they can make profit but Nintendo has always sold their consoles for a profit. The Wii made a profit right when it launched. The 360 didn't make profit until about 2009-2010 and the PS3 didn't start profiting until last year. It's apparently simple economics. Sorry for all the quoting. I'm almost done. As for the "fun" levels of each system that is up to each person to determine, however for power and the core stats that lets developers make more games/better ones, Nintendo has been losing ever since it had a competitor. Nintendo has always had a competitor. Wasn't the NES stronger than any of the Atari systems out there? Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: GiantTurkey on October 13, 2011, 07:29:22 pm games graphics, at this point, really can't get much better. they look like real life, to be honest. the only way to make them better would be to make them live action, which wouldn't really work. graphics have pretty much peaked. so if the wii u is better than the ps3, then it'll be the best out there. graphics can't get much better than what they are now, so i'm not worried about the graphics.
also, the wii u controller is absolutely awesome. it allows for extremely easy playability, and the touchscreen makes for so much more fun when playing. i'm gonna love that you can play even when the tv isn't on, and that it has two joysticks, making for good fps's. this is the system that will save nintendo, because ALL developers will want a piece of this hot action. think of all the games that could be played on this. think of the possibilities. for example, the next cod could make snd actually disarm the bomb, using the touchscreen to input the code, cut the wires, etc. that would be **** awesome. Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Food Library on October 13, 2011, 08:54:57 pm We only have one hd tv and it's one of the 2007 models. It's a 64 inch tv I think so that's where I see all my bluray stuff. I'll definitely need an hd tv in my room once the new Nintendo console comes out. Only you, Mex, would get a new HDTV because nintendo is going to have an HD console. lol :) Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: the KR3AT3R on October 13, 2011, 10:07:13 pm games graphics, at this point, really can't get much better. they look like real life, to be honest. the only way to make them better would be to make them live action, which wouldn't really work. graphics have pretty much peaked. so if the wii u is better than the ps3, then it'll be the best out there. graphics can't get much better than what they are now, so i'm not worried about the graphics. This has got to be one of the most ignorant things I've ever seen. Do you not realize how far advanced we are in human history today compared even to as soon as 10/20/30 years ago? I bet some poor sap back in the 80's said cassette was the best out there for music because vinyl became obsolete, and that there would be no need to advance further because it sounded great,. But alas, CD came along and viola, quality changed yet again. Now there is blueray technology, and more. We are constantly progressing, so thinking that we've peaked and cant go any further is absurd. Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: MEX on October 13, 2011, 10:43:30 pm We only have one hd tv and it's one of the 2007 models. It's a 64 inch tv I think so that's where I see all my bluray stuff. I'll definitely need an hd tv in my room once the new Nintendo console comes out. Only you, Mex, would get a new HDTV because nintendo is going to have an HD console. lol :) lol well I'll need one since the Wii U will look crappy with my standard tv :P Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: GiantTurkey on October 13, 2011, 10:54:17 pm games graphics, at this point, really can't get much better. they look like real life, to be honest. the only way to make them better would be to make them live action, which wouldn't really work. graphics have pretty much peaked. so if the wii u is better than the ps3, then it'll be the best out there. graphics can't get much better than what they are now, so i'm not worried about the graphics. This has got to be one of the most ignorant things I've ever seen. Do you not realize how far advanced we are in human history today compared even to as soon as 10/20/30 years ago? I bet some poor sap back in the 80's said cassette was the best out there for music because vinyl became obsolete, and that there would be no need to advance further because it sounded great,. But alas, CD came along and viola, quality changed yet again. Now there is blueray technology, and more. We are constantly progressing, so thinking that we've peaked and cant go any further is absurd. no. you obviously don't know what i'm trying to get at. graphics have almost peaked. i mean, watch an hd football game and compare that to watching it in person. it's pretty much the same visual quality. since high quality games almost look real nowadays, there's almost no improvement to be made. compare that to 80 years ago when there were 32 bits to a screen, and round things looked like squares. graphics aren't ever going to look realer than things do in person, so my argument is very valid. Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Food Library on October 14, 2011, 12:28:45 am no. you obviously don't know what i'm trying to get at. graphics have almost peaked. i mean, watch an hd football game and compare that to watching it in person. it's pretty much the same visual quality. since high quality games almost look real nowadays, there's almost no improvement to be made. compare that to 80 years ago when there were 32 bits to a screen, and round things looked like squares. graphics aren't ever going to look realer than things do in person, so my argument is very valid. But you forgot one important improvement yet to be made...HOLOGRAMS!!!! :D Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: GiantTurkey on October 14, 2011, 12:37:46 am pretty much the 3ds.
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Tiger on October 14, 2011, 12:47:25 am Turkey, I have to disagree with you. People thought that when the 360/PS3 came out with their best graphics, that would be the best there is. Now look at how far the PC has passed both of them in a short time frame of around three years. You think it's great already, but like K said, so did people back in the 80's. You don't know what they're going to introduce next.
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: The Krazy One on October 14, 2011, 04:17:54 am The highest I could possibly see them being able to go now is probably up to where PCs are now. The Wii U will look fine on my standard TV but I do need to get a new TV since it has been messed up for years.
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Ps358 on October 14, 2011, 10:06:10 am The highest I could possibly see them being able to go now is probably up to where PCs are now. The Wii U will look fine on my standard TV but I do need to get a new TV since it has been messed up for years. Same with meTitle: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: IRSmoh on October 14, 2011, 10:26:25 am The highest I could possibly see them being able to go now is probably up to where PCs are now. The Wii U will look fine on my standard TV but I do need to get a new TV since it has been messed up for years. Actually... I can see the reading devices we play games off of.. going to 3D storage and the processors reading in 3D, along with a legit 3D hologram (not the 2.5D images we call 3D atm). dude.. Imagine how much faster everything will be once they start making 3D storage/writing efficient.. If anything else the space needed to store data would drop immensely... Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: GiantTurkey on October 14, 2011, 10:13:52 pm The highest I could possibly see them being able to go now is probably up to where PCs are now. The Wii U will look fine on my standard TV but I do need to get a new TV since it has been messed up for years. Same with meTitle: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Ps358 on October 15, 2011, 12:27:29 am I hope I don't hear you say that again as long as I live.
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Baw on October 15, 2011, 12:43:17 am Actually, video games do not look like real life but don't be fooled, there is a peak for graphics because of our eyes. It will get to the point where it's so many pixels that our eyes won't be able to tell the difference between something that's 500 pixels more or less than something else.
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Tiger on October 15, 2011, 01:19:34 am I hope I don't hear you say that again as long as I live. Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: GiantTurkey on October 15, 2011, 01:28:59 pm I hope I don't hear you say that again as long as I live. same hizzle. youz just a haterrr.Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: The Krazy One on October 15, 2011, 02:39:00 pm same hizzle. youz just a haterrr. This post translates to this: (http://i51.tinypic.com/sqteh0.gif) But I've heard of that 3D storage thing before. Wouldn't that cost a lot to implement into a console currently? Though I know you mean in the future. Isn't the craze in storage right now that "cloud" thing that OnLive uses? Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Food Library on October 15, 2011, 10:19:04 pm For some reason I don't trust the cloud. I don't have any reason for the mistrust. No sir...I don't like it.
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: The Krazy One on October 18, 2011, 06:42:09 pm When I said I heard about the 3D storage thing, I actually mistaked that for Holographic storage which can hold up to terrabytes of data. That would still be expensive though.
But yeah, the Cloud storage has the downside of having to be connected to the internet to access and use the data. If that server is down, no one can use their game save data and stuff like that. Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: IRSmoh on October 19, 2011, 08:33:24 am ^ I was thinking of the holo storage.. But yes, due to it being a new tech it is massively expensive... but so was our modern tech at some point.
Cloud gaming works just fine... take steam and origin as an example.. (although people hate origin..) Steam: the advantage of having a **** load of Indy/main games for PC/Max/linux in one store with a friend feature built in. Origin: Basically EA's attempt at making an early Steam. Cloud storage though... Eh... it can be nice because you only have to have 1 main server to store everything on and that means you can access data anywhere... but the disadvantage? Internet speeds are always slower than your HDD->Processor speeds, you can lose all access to the data without an internet like you said Krazy. Or, it can take ages to download due to slow internet.. Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: GiantTurkey on October 19, 2011, 07:58:52 pm holo? what is holo?
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Tiger on October 19, 2011, 10:04:54 pm Holographic storage Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: banthaPudu on October 20, 2011, 07:13:00 pm no. you obviously don't know what i'm trying to get at. graphics have almost peaked. i mean, watch an hd football game and compare that to watching it in person. it's pretty much the same visual quality. since high quality games almost look real nowadays, there's almost no improvement to be made. compare that to 80 years ago when there were 32 bits to a screen, and round things looked like squares. graphics aren't ever going to look realer than things do in person, so my argument is very valid. But you forgot one important improvement yet to be made...HOLOGRAMS!!!! :D I think the people who will benefit more from holography will be the PRON industry, not gaming :-\ :D Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: IRSmoh on October 20, 2011, 07:29:49 pm no. you obviously don't know what i'm trying to get at. graphics have almost peaked. i mean, watch an hd football game and compare that to watching it in person. it's pretty much the same visual quality. since high quality games almost look real nowadays, there's almost no improvement to be made. compare that to 80 years ago when there were 32 bits to a screen, and round things looked like squares. graphics aren't ever going to look realer than things do in person, so my argument is very valid. But you forgot one important improvement yet to be made...HOLOGRAMS!!!! :D I think the people who will benefit more from holography will be the PRON industry, not gaming :-\ :D But you can't feel a hologram... Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Tiger on October 20, 2011, 07:40:06 pm You can feel a computer screen?
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: IRSmoh on October 20, 2011, 07:54:21 pm ^its at least solid..... :-[
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Tiger on October 20, 2011, 08:24:05 pm ;)
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Food Library on October 21, 2011, 04:28:46 am no. you obviously don't know what i'm trying to get at. graphics have almost peaked. i mean, watch an hd football game and compare that to watching it in person. it's pretty much the same visual quality. since high quality games almost look real nowadays, there's almost no improvement to be made. compare that to 80 years ago when there were 32 bits to a screen, and round things looked like squares. graphics aren't ever going to look realer than things do in person, so my argument is very valid. But you forgot one important improvement yet to be made...HOLOGRAMS!!!! :D I think the people who will benefit more from holography will be the PRON industry, not gaming :-\ :D The **** industry benefits from everything. Goddamn geniuses...That's seriously censored? What are we 12? Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: GiantTurkey on October 21, 2011, 04:17:12 pm 12? i knew about porn even then. six would've worked better.
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Food Library on October 21, 2011, 05:05:50 pm does p0rn work? poorn? pohrn?p()rn? :P
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 Post by: Tiger on October 21, 2011, 06:34:26 pm Lmao Food Library.
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 "The Wii U Topic" Post by: GiantTurkey on October 21, 2011, 10:55:42 pm porn works too.
you don't know the trick to uncensor any word? tiger taught it to me. my failure to learn it is in his signature. Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 "The Wii U Topic" Post by: Tiger on October 22, 2011, 01:54:26 am O0
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 "The Wii U Topic" Post by: Paranoid71 on October 22, 2011, 07:26:57 pm i dont think ill get the new wii maybe later on but not right away definitely. i dont play games as much as i used to (or would like to for that matter) so it would be a bit of a waste.
disregard all of that if they announce a new paper mario or donkey kong within the first year. ;) Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 "The Wii U Topic" Post by: GiantTurkey on October 22, 2011, 09:14:34 pm i dont think ill get the new wii maybe later on but not right away definitely. i dont play games as much as i used to (or would like to for that matter) so it would be a bit of a waste. i'll get it after the second price drop.disregard all of that if they announce a new paper mario or donkey kong within the first year. ;) Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 "The Wii U Topic" Post by: Food Library on October 22, 2011, 11:24:46 pm porn works too. you don't know the trick to uncensor any word? tiger taught it to me. my failure to learn it is in his signature. What sort of sacred ritual would I have perform to have such glorious wisdom bestowed upon thee?....Wait a tick!!! I think I just figured it out PORN!!...Did that work? I had better be careful with this. You know blah blah with great power an all that. Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 "The Wii U Topic" Post by: GiantTurkey on October 23, 2011, 03:21:50 pm bitch, you aint need to be fucking careful with this shit, it's pretty damn fun to cuss like a dyke takin a huge cock.
^dirtiest sentence i can ever come up with. i don't really swear like that. Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 "The Wii U Topic" Post by: MocoOso on October 23, 2011, 03:48:40 pm GOBBLE GOBBLE SWALLOW SWALLOW
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 "The Wii U Topic" Post by: MG Maxdaddy on February 07, 2012, 06:07:05 pm http://preorder-wii-u.com/
Estimated price of at least $650 :-\ I would like to try one but dang. Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 "The Wii U Topic" Post by: Baw on February 07, 2012, 07:27:41 pm http://preorder-wii-u.com/ That site says the estimated price is $399Estimated price of at least $650 :-\ I would like to try one but dang. Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 "The Wii U Topic" Post by: MG Maxdaddy on February 07, 2012, 08:30:49 pm "The thought is the prices will be in the range of about $649."
http://preorder-wii-u.com/new-wii-u-price-speculations.html#more-47 Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 "The Wii U Topic" Post by: xCA3Nx on February 07, 2012, 09:09:04 pm "The thought is the prices will be in the range of about $649." http://preorder-wii-u.com/new-wii-u-price-speculations.html#more-47 If you go to the Gamefaqs Wii U discussion board (link below) there is much speculation on Wii U pricing. Consensus speculation is $300-$400 range or Wii U simply will not sell. The Wii U is still competing with PS360 selling for $200-$400 depending on the model and bundle package. Nintendo knows if the Wii U is too expensive the sysem will not sell. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/631516-wii-u Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 "The Wii U Topic" Post by: MEX on February 07, 2012, 09:53:36 pm Yeah I believe the Wii U will be $250-$400. It won't sell if it's too expensive.
Title: Re: Next Gen Wii, announced E3 in June 2011 "The Wii U Topic" Post by: IRSmoh on March 08, 2012, 04:14:08 pm Yeah I believe the Wii U will be $250-$400. It won't sell if it's too expensive. If this is the case.. then Nintendo is either stealing parts or the system again will have craptastic components.. There is only so much you can cut prices before CPU/GPU/RAM performance gets massively affected by cutting back so much. Then again.. I am trying to *hope* consoles at least want to emulate the current PC specs.... |