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Title: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Paranoid71 on June 29, 2012, 03:48:15 am
discuss.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 29, 2012, 10:25:10 am
3rd

Edit: Here's my reasoning...

WaW/CoD4 >>> Black Ops > Modern Warfare 2 >>>>>>>>> Modern Warfare 3

CoD4


Major Pros: Maps are great, guns are almost perfectly balanced. Snipers work, Sidearms were only pistols.


Major Cons: Grenades, Frag x3, Martyrdom is a perk, Last Stand is a perk, no host migration. No reason to prestige


Minor Pros: Quickscoping took skill, SoH is in SP slot, UAV Jammer was balanced, C4/Claymores/RPGs= perks.


Minor Cons: MP5/M16 are borderline OP, Juggernaut, LMGs are almost all clones.


WaW:


Major Pros: Rifles took a lot of skill. Snipers were perfect, sidearms were only pistols. Maps were amazing,
and benefitted snipers to furthur balance the game, No fire cap on semis (until patched), knife sucked


Major Cons: Mp40, Martyrdom is a perk, Second Chance is a perk, tanks (removed for SnD which is awesome), no host migration.


Minor Pros: Machine Guns were all unique, snipers could be used without a scope, SoH is in SP slot, betties/satchels/bazooka = perk.


Minor Cons: Rifle Grenades, RoundDrum/BoxMagazine on SMGs was a bit much, shotguns were not very good, juggernaut, little reason to prestige.


MW2:


Major Pros: The shotguns are actually good, a lot of guns are so OP that they balance each other out.
Most maps are great, and work for snipers, best looking of all 5, runs the smoothest aswell.
C4 is better than all equipment, but is the least used.


Major Cons: Shotgun secondaries, Grenade launchers, way too high killstreaks, killstreaks unlock more killstreaks,
OMA replenishes explosives, commmando, knife was already too good even without commando, scavenger replenishes explosives
Machine pistol secondaries, launcher secondaries, SoH Pro makes Quickscoping WAY too easy,
SoH has no major competition for noobs, stopping power with no jug to balance, danger close, last stand is a perk.
Hardly any patches/post-game support


Minor Pros: Handguns were actually a good backup, throwing knife. Callsigns, host migration (it wasn't that great though)


Minor Cons: UMP, ACR, M93R, G18 akimbo are too easy, LMGs are almost all clones, scrambler is actually an anti-perk, heartbeat sensors
deathstreaks, little reason to prestige


BO:


Major Pros: Pistols are awesome, Flak jacket negates almost all explosives, second perk tier is balanced with good variety,
Tomahawk is awesome, better than throwing knife, killstreaks don't stack, good private match customization.
Combat record is public, host migration worked well.


Major Cons: SoH is the only thing noobs use in second tier, FAMAS/AUG, motion sensor, CoD points buys too much (mainly camos)
Buying perks and killstreaks in any order destroys balance. Snipers don't work very well (2 reasons: bad maps/random sway),
bad hit detection occurs sometimes, Assault rifles tiers are spread out too much. SMG tiers are spread out way too much.


Minor Pros: Ghost is balanced by Flak Jacket, ballistic knife and crossbow. maps are alright. Only some are really good.
Only 2/3 are good for snipers. Wager matches added a bit more variety. Custom emblems, decent reason to prestige, LMGs are unique.


Minor Cons: AK74u, Galil, Ghillie suit isn't for snipers, it's for ghost, pointless customization (face paint, reticles)
pointless attachments (var. zoom, flamethrower, shotgun), launcher secondaries, shotguns should be a little better.


MW3:


Major Pros: Specialist is amazing, lots of post-game support, C4 is better than all equipment, but is the least used.
Pointstreaks instead of killstreaks. Great private match customization, lobbies usually stay in tact. ( no host migration?)


Major Cons: Lag compensation, Using QD Pro to make Quickscoping too easy again, Stalker is OP. Almost no perk balance aside from tier 3.
WAY too many killstreaks. Killstreaks stack. Sleight of Hand has no competition in tier 1 (for noobs)
Too much pointless customization (T.I. scrambler, EMP Nades, hybrid sight, shotgun, thermal, etc) Assault rifle tiers are too widespread.
You have to get damage for shotguns to work. Dead Mans Hand, machine pistol secondaries (and akimbo, wtf), maps are almost all bad,
and none of the maps allow snipers to be used properly. Maps are way too focused on CQC. Sitrep pro counters dead silence after patch (slows game)
This game looks worse than BO and MW2. wtf

Minor Pros: Blind Eye is separate from Assassin. Good sniper variation. Throwing Knife.


Minor Cons: Type 95, FMG9's, ACR, MP7, PP90, striker are all too easy. Prestiging is almost useless in this game, you can
get all 10 classes after 1 prestige. Callsigns were less customizable than MW2. wtf, Assassin is pretty much necessary.
Gun proficiencies make the game even easier. LMGs are not unique at all. Deathstreaks, launcher secondaries.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: MrPillow on June 29, 2012, 12:05:45 pm
For me it goes CoD4>BO>MW2>MW3>WaW

MW2 was the best for competitive gameplay, but its pubs pretty much sucked pen0r.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Holy on June 29, 2012, 01:20:35 pm
CoD4 > WaW > Mw2 > BO

Yea, Mw2 was a great game to play competitively, but WaW had so many great memories.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 29, 2012, 02:56:19 pm
MW3>WaW

All I can say is that there's no way you have a soul.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: MrPillow on June 29, 2012, 02:57:18 pm
MW3>WaW

All I can say is that there's no way you have a soul.

coming from the person who lists juggernaut as a con


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Shockwavve on June 29, 2012, 03:02:36 pm
Yoshi's Topsy Turvy>COD4>MW2>BO>WAW>MW3>HxLy


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 29, 2012, 03:05:38 pm
coming from the person who lists juggernaut as a con

Nobody should have more power or more health than anyone. All Jug does it make it so you need SP, meaning those 2 perks dominate and nothing else matters. All it does it take away simple customization.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: MrPillow on June 29, 2012, 03:10:30 pm
yet you dont list stopping power as a con.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 29, 2012, 03:18:01 pm
mistake then, this is the first draft of what I made videos out of, I knew I had it saved so I just copied and pasted.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on June 29, 2012, 03:19:11 pm
Waw>Cod4>mw2>mw3>BO


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 29, 2012, 03:24:18 pm
Seriously, I don't even care what order they're put in as long as MW3 is last. That thing is so freaking bad.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on June 29, 2012, 03:26:03 pm
No, it's not that bad. BO is worse IMO.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: the KR3AT3R on June 29, 2012, 03:27:50 pm
I've played all, but not a ton.

1. MW1
2. BO
3. MW2
4. MW3
5. WaW

CoD killers in general:
Choppers, dogs, hell killstreaks altogether.  Perks aren't noobish IMO because you can balance and counter them.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on June 29, 2012, 03:30:08 pm
I haven't heard "Mw1" in so long.

You know you can just pick the barebones playlist, right?


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: the KR3AT3R on June 29, 2012, 03:35:22 pm
By the time it was available I was already turned off by CoD.  Even still, there are annoying snot nosed brats, wannabe MLG'ers, and hosts.  such male cattle dung.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on June 29, 2012, 03:40:17 pm
Wannabe MLG kids **** me off. They try sooooo hard in pub matches. That's where the fun is supposed to be.
I'm gonna make a vid of me playing infected and show you guys the things i do. :D


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 29, 2012, 03:52:47 pm
You're always supposed to try to win.

"Tryhard" is the second dumbest term ever, only second to camper. Actually I don't know which is stupider.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on June 29, 2012, 03:53:55 pm
You're always supposed to try to win.
I just giggled a little more than I should've.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 29, 2012, 03:59:29 pm
That's stupid. You don't play a game with the intention of losing. Proof: people who say "tryhard" are usually mad, meaning they wanted to win. Meaning they were also trying. If you weren't "trying to win" you wouldn't care when you lose. Fact.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on June 29, 2012, 04:16:35 pm
That's stupid. You don't play a game with the intention of losing. Proof: people who say "tryhard" are usually mad, meaning they wanted to win. Meaning they were also trying. If you weren't "trying to win" you wouldn't care when you lose. Fact.
I don't play with the intention to lose, never have. I don't go into a game and say "I'm gonna lose this game just for the hell of it." I go into a game with the intention to have fun, not win.
Another thing I don't go into a game saying is, "I'm gonna make sure I sit in a corner at the best possible position and defend this objective. Teammates, watch my back!"
No. It's not about winning, it's about having fun.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 29, 2012, 04:25:12 pm
You're ruining gaming. You play to win. Winning = fun. Like I said, it's a bunch of hypocritical BS. Why? Because if you lose, you're at least upset. Everyone wants to win whether they admit it or not. I play serious when I want to, but it's stupid to get mad at others who are playing seriously when you're not.

Basically, if you're not playing as serious as possible, you get mad when others are.

But when you are playing serious, you don't care about anything, and just get mad when you die.

Either way CoD is **** because everyone always gets mad. It's mainly because everything thinks their standard of playing is how everyone should always play. That's why the community is messed up...

Terms like camper, tryhard, hacker, hardscoper etc. ruin the game.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on June 29, 2012, 04:34:59 pm
You're ruining gaming.
Nope

You play to win.
I don't.

Winning = fun.
No it doesn't.

if you lose, you're at least upset.
I don't get upset with losing. Never have, never will.

Everyone wants to win whether they admit it or not.
Not true in any way, shape, or form.



Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 29, 2012, 04:38:26 pm
Congratulations on being a perfect human being.  O0


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on June 29, 2012, 04:42:53 pm
Thanks bud, you're a nice guy.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 29, 2012, 04:44:33 pm
Teach me how to not get mad or even slightly upset, even though I am because I care what other people are doing.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: the KR3AT3R on June 29, 2012, 04:46:14 pm
Lol @ DG getting tr0lled. :D


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on June 29, 2012, 04:46:33 pm
Well first things first, make sure the pen0r is out of your ass, then reply and I'll teach step 2.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 29, 2012, 05:41:59 pm
Nah that's not trolling, pretty sure he legitimately believes what he's saying.  :-\


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on June 29, 2012, 06:00:28 pm
I do.
I don't see how you can play a video game and try to win every time and not get bored.
Having fun and being leader of a team is the only reason I still play.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 29, 2012, 06:20:28 pm
Ok, you can think that way but then it's unfair to say others are playing wrong because they're always trying to win. That's where the stupidity comes in.

That's why "tryhard" is a stupid term. It's equally as stupid to call people like you people who "aren't trying hard enough". Who cares?


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on June 29, 2012, 06:23:19 pm
I never said there was a wrong way to play.

People can tell someone to try harder, but the answer will be the same as when someone tells another to stop trying hard.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Paranoid71 on June 29, 2012, 06:26:51 pm
For me it goes CoD4>BO>MW2>MW3>WaW

MW2 was the best for competitive gameplay, but its pubs pretty much sucked ****.

this.



Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Paranoid71 on June 29, 2012, 06:27:26 pm
although Bops was hands down the best for competitive, if we're talking about strictly pubs I might revise the list a little (W@W higher maybs).


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 29, 2012, 06:28:26 pm
That's what I just said, they're equally as stupid. Yes you did mention there was a "wrong" way to play.

This comment doesn't exactly say that you like how other people play, does it?

Wannabe MLG kids **** me off. They try sooooo hard in pub matches.

inb4 "I didn't say 'wrong'"


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on June 29, 2012, 06:33:13 pm
I didn't say that was a wrong way to play.

I hate kids pretending to be MLG. Like, let's say I'm trapping a kid in a corner. A kid on the other team comes running around the corner and sees me trapping him in a corner facing the other way.
So the kid backs behind the wall, double stuns, jumps around the corner then drop shots me. That's what kind of try hard I'm talking about.
I worded the last quote weirdly, and this quote was kinda worded weird too...
Maybe you can understand what I'm talking about though. :-\


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 29, 2012, 06:37:14 pm
Yeah, that's called a person playing the game normally.

Also, LMFAO at saying "kid" that's also another word butchering the CoD community, so pathetic.

It's like when you get on you feel like you have to assume

1. Everyone else is worse than you.
2. If you're killed, it's never your own fault.
3. Everyone is a "kid".

There are plenty of other things that make the CoD community pathetic.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on June 29, 2012, 06:44:00 pm
If I'm talking about an example, I'm not going to call him a gentleman or a noble knight. I'm going to call him a kid, because that's the majority that play the game.

*reply to your list*
1. Maybe for kids who try, but I could care less if I'm good or not. I o GB doubles with a friend and we snipe.
2. Believe me, I know.
3. Everyone is a kid until I hear them speak and figure out if they are or not.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 29, 2012, 06:50:39 pm
Or, you know.. a "guy" or "person" makes sense. Belittling others to make yourself feel better is the standard of CoD, so you probably don't understand.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on June 29, 2012, 06:53:57 pm
Since when is calling someone "kid" belittling them??
I don't think anyone will get on CoD, call someone a kid, feel good about it, then the gentleman "belittled" gets off, sits in his parents closet and cuts himself.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 29, 2012, 06:59:18 pm
I'll just compare it to a different situation...

let's say you're walking around the mall, you really gonna walk up to random people (not knowing their age) and calling them kids? LOL ok

I don't know why people act like the internet is so different from real life. You shouldn't act differently on one compared to the other, but so many people do it's retarded.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Shockwavve on June 29, 2012, 07:53:08 pm
Good soap opera you guys got brewin' here. But im gonna side with DG on this one.  Very strong standpoint, great delivery, and well thought rebuttals


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on June 29, 2012, 08:35:20 pm
This isn't real life, it's a video game.
But if you want to bring real life in, alright.
People act different on Xbox because no one can do anything about it. People could be bullied and this could be their escape from their pain. If someone is shy and quiet in real life, gaming is where they can speak without being yelled (for the most part). Nobody can be made fun of for how they look or act because nobody except their friends on Xbox/ps3 know.

If you want people to act on xbox like how they do in real life, the community would be worse than it is. I bet mote than 50% of gamers are people who are quiet, shy kids (like me), who don't talk much in real life.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 29, 2012, 08:37:11 pm
How would the community worse if there weren't a bunch of screaming kids (and adults, idk which is more sad) yelling **** at everyone?


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on June 29, 2012, 08:40:22 pm
How would the community worse if there weren't a bunch of screaming kids (and adults, idk which is more sad) yelling **** at everyone?
I prefer to call them people or guys.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 29, 2012, 09:35:01 pm
I almost backspaced when I wrote that because I knew you'd point it out, but I'm literally referring to people under than the age of 15. You, and way too many other people refer to everyone as a kid.

Sometimes when I'm online a person clearly younger than me, after hearing me speak, will call me a kid. That's pretty much the dumbest and most annoying insult ever. It's really.... dumb and annoying.  :P


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Shockwavve on June 29, 2012, 09:45:58 pm
nice try for a backfire on DG, but it's in wrong context!


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 29, 2012, 10:28:20 pm
Precisely.  :)


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Baw on June 29, 2012, 10:40:23 pm
The only good thing about this CoD was it had the best story mode, the best maps, and the most customization

The gunplay wasn't that great. All the guns kind of sucked and the FAMAS and AK74U pre-patched were the clear, by far, best guns in the game. Also, hit detection was questionable in this game compared to MW2 and MW3. Guns also sound like paper and graphics weren't as good as MW2....

This was my best COD by the way, in terms of K/D, W/L etc., but it still was kind of dumb.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: MrPillow on June 29, 2012, 11:42:08 pm
See here's how I feel about trying hard. I've played with people who will hide in a corner of a map with silenced mp5s and will dropshot pistol users. THAT'S a tryhard. And it's just annoying, I see it more of a person "desperate to get a kill" than I do a person "trying their best to win." DoubleGunz y'know the other day on Wetwork SnD they just saw in their spawn with SMGs the whole time because they were just playing for kills? That's tryharding. And as you can tell from that example, it's not always people trying to win.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 29, 2012, 11:51:20 pm
ummm... no... and there's another problem.

Words like camping, hardscope, tryhard (stupid words) have different meanings to everyone. The definition Pcs gave made much more sense, but you think differently. This makes interpreting what people mean even harder, and gives the words less credibility.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Baw on June 29, 2012, 11:53:31 pm
Also sniping was horrible in Black Ops.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on June 30, 2012, 01:11:15 am
Camping- Laying out in nature under the stars. Maybe in a tent.
Hardscope- A scope made of steel.
Tryhard- Trying hard.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Paranoid71 on June 30, 2012, 02:14:38 am
People still **** about players "trying hard"? What the **** do you want me to do?


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Tiger on June 30, 2012, 02:15:34 am
For me, it depends on the game and mode for if I have fun or not.  If I'm playing by myself, generally to have fun, I need to win/carry the team.  If I'm playing with friends, I often don't care about winning.  I remember playing SnD with sOLisEro and a bunch of his Mexican friends and we were purposely being retardedly funny in SnD, and getting slaughtered.  I had a great time.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on June 30, 2012, 02:29:14 am
Hey DG, look, he lost a game and had fun. Take notes.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: MrPillow on June 30, 2012, 04:25:25 am
ummm... no... and there's another problem.

Words like camping, hardscope, tryhard (stupid words) have different meanings to everyone. The definition Pcs gave made much more sense, but you think differently. This makes interpreting what people mean even harder, and gives the words less credibility.

I can agree about the verbiage problem, but are you saying people who play objectives just for kills aren't annoying humps?


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: the KR3AT3R on June 30, 2012, 05:01:56 am
I'll admit...I'm a "tryhard".  I humping love killing and avoid dying as much as possible.  If I die, I rage.  If I **** face then I'm excited.  So sue me!


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Shockwavve on June 30, 2012, 09:54:46 am
For me, it depends on the game and mode for if I have fun or not.  If I'm playing by myself, generally to have fun, I need to win/carry the team.  If I'm playing with friends, I often don't care about winning.  I remember playing SnD with sOLisEro and a bunch of his Mexican friends and we were purposely being retardedly funny in SnD, and getting slaughtered.  I had a great time.

Definately agreed.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 30, 2012, 10:58:52 am
Hey DG, look, he lost a game and had fun. Take notes.

lol I completely agree with him, I love messing around and using random things or trolling people or hiding, etc. Sometimes I shake it up and we do random stuff, but the point is I don't always do that and you can't expect anybody to ever do that. So it's dumb to get upset when people are "trying".

People who play objectives just for kills are definitely annoying, but how in the world is that a "tryhard"? If the term tryhard must exist, it would mean someone trying as hard as possible to win, not to get kills.

Also, there's nothing wrong with that. Ever.

Paranoid has the right idea.  O0


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on June 30, 2012, 11:06:33 am
That what try hard means!! Thank god you understand finally!
People who play games like domination, and just go for kills, are Kill w h o res.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 30, 2012, 12:13:37 pm
That's not what it means, and it shouldn't mean anything. rofl

Kill w h o r e s, on the other hand, is a term that makes sense.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on June 30, 2012, 12:45:47 pm
And tryhard doesnt??


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 30, 2012, 12:50:31 pm
I can't handle this CoD language, it's too freaking stooopid


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on June 30, 2012, 12:51:49 pm
How?
Does it really bother you that much?


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 30, 2012, 12:54:05 pm
Extremely. It's like the downfall of society. CoD is in general.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on June 30, 2012, 12:56:34 pm
But how?
What about makes you want to mace your grandmother?


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 30, 2012, 01:04:54 pm
Because insulting people in general is dumb.
That's what the CoD community lives off of, belittling others... and it's really sad because they're the biggest online games out there.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on June 30, 2012, 01:09:18 pm
So you're saying that call of duty is the only online game that has people make fun of one another??


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 30, 2012, 01:12:36 pm
So I'm saying that call of duty is the biggest online game that primarily has people make fun of one another because they feel bad about themselves, or want to try to impress they're equally as shallow friends.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on June 30, 2012, 01:35:44 pm
Sorry, forgot a word on that last post. It's edited, reply to that.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: the KR3AT3R on June 30, 2012, 02:21:54 pm
:D

I gotta karma up ps39752257 on this one. Good stuff.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 30, 2012, 05:05:00 pm
For being clueless?  :-X


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on June 30, 2012, 05:07:59 pm
No, for giving you a run for your money at being the person who knows the most about cod on WU.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: the KR3AT3R on June 30, 2012, 05:12:42 pm
No, and no


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on June 30, 2012, 05:15:44 pm
Yea, I knew that was a regretment post when I posted it.  :-[


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 30, 2012, 05:28:31 pm
l o l


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Keihan on June 30, 2012, 06:18:39 pm
MW2 > Black Ops > WaW > Cod4 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MW3


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Baw on June 30, 2012, 06:52:13 pm
MW3>Cod4>WaW>MW2>BlackOps

From a technical standpoint, MW3 is the best CoD ever made.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Holy on June 30, 2012, 06:54:10 pm
MW3>Cod4>WaW>MW2>BlackOps

From a technical standpoint, MW3 is the best CoD ever made.

From a technical standpoint, SSBM, MoH2, Halo 1, etc are "terrible" games. I never look at games technically anymore especially since BO and Mw3.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 30, 2012, 07:00:30 pm
MW3>Cod4>WaW>MW2>BlackOps

From a technical standpoint, MW3 is the best CoD ever made.

From a technical standpoint, MW2 is definitely the best. Smoothest framerate, best looking, polished, etc. MW3 is choppy like BO, CoD4 and WaW are alright in that department but they're older so it's ok.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Baw on June 30, 2012, 07:35:14 pm
MW3>Cod4>WaW>MW2>BlackOps

From a technical standpoint, MW3 is the best CoD ever made.

From a technical standpoint, MW2 is definitely the best. Smoothest framerate, best looking, polished, etc. MW3 is choppy like BO, CoD4 and WaW are alright in that department but they're older so it's ok.
MW3 had the best gun and perk balance. MW2 had horrible gun balance and it was too easy to exploit certain things etc. (One Man Army+noobtubes).


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 30, 2012, 07:44:25 pm
MW3 has the second worst gun and perk balance.

Fixed. There are almost no good things about MW3. It's a disgrace to games.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Baw on June 30, 2012, 07:56:52 pm
MW3 has the second worst gun and perk balance.

Fixed. There are almost no good things about MW3. It's a disgrace to games.
Lolwut? There is no overpowered guns in MW3 unlike in MW2. You can use pretty much any gun in MW3 and not be at a huge disadvantage, not including a few LMGs.

Same thing with perks. There is no perk that you absolutely have to use, except Dead Silence in Search.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on June 30, 2012, 08:04:47 pm
Lag compensation, Using QD Pro to make Quickscoping too easy again, Stalker is OP. Almost no perk balance aside from tier 3.
WAY too many killstreaks. Killstreaks stack. Sleight of Hand has no competition in tier 1 (for noobs)
Too much pointless customization (T.I. scrambler, EMP Nades, hybrid sight, shotgun, thermal, etc) Assault rifle tiers are too widespread.
You have to get damage for shotguns to work. Dead Mans Hand, machine pistol secondaries (and akimbo, wtf), maps are almost all bad,
and none of the maps allow snipers to be used properly. Maps are way too focused on CQC. Sitrep pro counters dead silence after patch (slows game)
This game looks worse than BO and MW2. wtf

Type 95, FMG9's, ACR, MP7, PP90, striker are all too easy. Prestiging is almost useless in this game, you can
get all 10 classes after 1 prestige. Callsigns were less customizable than MW2. wtf, Assassin is pretty much necessary.
Gun proficiencies make the game even easier. LMGs are not unique at all. Deathstreaks, launcher secondaries.

All cons. Soooooooo many cons.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: GeneralGrant on June 30, 2012, 08:17:41 pm
cod4>black ops>mw2>waw>mw3

I never liked waw too much because I never got to play it at it's peak so now you go on it and it's all hackers and people who have modded the game.

I love playing cod4 for competetive, sniping, and just playing casualy in pubs. The ranking up in it was so slow which was good and bad in a way but either way I ended up in a xp lobby. Bottom line I have always loved this game and I can't begin to imagine how amazing it was when it first came out.

MW2 when it came out...it clearly had a lot of flaws but I still loved it for the most part. If you got into a lobby of people who weren't noob tubing, running around with the spas, or mlc knifing...it was a lot of fun. At the same time I raged at it I was always glad they had all the variety of perks and guns because it kept the game fresh. The game was great for competetive because of the maps and variety of playstyles you could choose. The reason it isn't first for me is because if you sat down and wanted to find a game with some chill people who don't abuse the annoying things in the game it was pretty much impossible.

Black Ops. When it first came out I absolutely hated it. MW2 being my first actual cod and then trying to transition to unreliable guns, a completely different playstyle, and ghost just was too much for me to put up with. I always and still am very annoyed with people who use ghost and galil silenced. It is a really good set up but to me extrememly aggrivating. Ghost is in a tier which decides a players playstyle IMO. It really doesn't take away anything essential from the average joe who isn't playing objective or dropping mad killstreaks. The galil is definately one of the best guns in the game but add silencer and it easily challenges the famas red dot. This annoying class lets people camp with their motion sensors and kill people so easily. I don't understand why it is fun to push about 1 button per minute but it's whatever. I think the main thing is I've never had patience with cod really and when I started adjusting to the guns the game became great! The new killstreak system kept people pushing out of spawn. The customization on your player and gun was really cool too. Emblems were really fun to make and they had some cool titles. Cod points...good idea but stupid in my opinion. I like having to work for attatchments and such but it's whatever. Competition playlist was an awesome addition. I could go on for a while but once you actually adjust to the game and add in all the new additions to the game it was really fun and I also liked having 15 prestiges and being able to get through them faster.

MW3...what should I say. Just like every cod it was really cool for the first week but eventually you started noticing all the annoying things about it. I'm sure the most of us can all equally hate this game and agree on it's flaws so I won't waste your time like I wasted 9 prestiges worth of playing on the game...somehow.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Paranoid71 on June 30, 2012, 10:03:42 pm
For me, it depends on the game and mode for if I have fun or not.  If I'm playing by myself, generally to have fun, I need to win/carry the team.  If I'm playing with friends, I often don't care about winning.  I remember playing SnD with sOLisEro and a bunch of his Mexican friends and we were purposely being retardedly funny in SnD, and getting slaughtered.  I had a great time.

Definately agreed.

*definitely


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Baw on June 30, 2012, 10:48:11 pm

This game looks worse than BO


I don't know what TV you're playing on or if you're playing in HD or not but MW3 looks way better than BO. BO's guns look like paper.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Tiger on June 30, 2012, 11:48:20 pm
I agree that MW3 looks better than BO...

Anyway, in my own personal opinion (not saying it's right or wrong, to avoid argument <_<)

WaW>CoD 4> MW2> MW3>BO

Black Ops wasn't terrible, I just couldn't get over the destruction of snipers and massive hit detection failure.  Made the game unplayable in my opinion.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on July 01, 2012, 12:01:32 am
BAW, what the ****? I didn't know we were tag teaming?
But I guess you can sub in for me. O0


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: GeneralGrant on July 01, 2012, 11:30:50 am
Tiger, I know you said you were trying to avoid an argument but I'm just curious of how the destruction of a type of gun can make a game unplayable. And how that compares to the destruction of a game *cough cough* mw3....


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Tiger on July 01, 2012, 07:50:38 pm
The failure of snipers didn't make it unplayable, just unenjoyable.  I love sniping for one, and two, it gives more variation in killing enemies and using teamwork to cover areas (though both BO and MW3 are too centered on CQC).  I was talking about the hit-detection that ruined it for me.  I think MW3 is a worse game than BO, except that the hit-detection is almost on par with MW2, bringing it ahead.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: GeneralGrant on July 01, 2012, 08:28:27 pm
Yeah Black Ops hit detection was pretty terrible but eventually I somehow got used to it. MW3 hit detection isn't really the greatest either to be honest. I think host plays a bigger role in MW3 than most other CoDs.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on July 01, 2012, 08:58:25 pm
You're comment is false.
Adam wins.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Baw on July 01, 2012, 09:14:21 pm
Nah, Grant's right about Black Ops hit detection.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on July 01, 2012, 09:15:44 pm
3 sentences, 2 correct. 2/3 = .66.

Majority rule, comment is false.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Paranoid71 on July 01, 2012, 10:07:05 pm
black ops had the best spawns. instantly made it great. Summit + Firing Range + Havana Dom had marvelous spawns... me, SS Dru, and two TEC guys shat on every team just because we memorized the spawn system.

and, *gasp*... snipers took skill to use? OH NO!!!!~~~


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: GeneralGrant on July 01, 2012, 10:46:04 pm
Yeah Black Ops is probably my favorite CoD to roll with a party. Spawn trapping felt a bit too easy in this game and I think every CoD's spawns are pretty terrible but I'm sure it's way better than I could do. Firing Range is one of my favorite maps but MW2 maps are way better :P. Yeah sniping took some skill but you could never really hit every shot even if it was perfectly in line. Frustrating at times but when you adjust to the PSG or L96 it wasn't too bad. Search and Destroy was pretty easy to snipe in cause things weren't as hectic. A lot of sniping ended up in luck but it made quick scoping fun.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on July 01, 2012, 10:47:06 pm
Black ops sniping wasn't the "skill" you're thinking of, it was just dumb.
Want to have a skilled sniper game?

Battlefield or sniper elite v2


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: the KR3AT3R on July 01, 2012, 11:08:40 pm
Actually, people in BF figured out how to "no scope" the same way it is in CoD.  :-\


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on July 01, 2012, 11:29:17 pm
and, *gasp*... snipers took skill to use? OH NO!!!!~~~

It's a bit more than that. Snipers took skill in CoD4 and even more-so in WaW, also in MW2 and 3 (only without SoH pro/QD Pro) but in BO sniping is kind of ruined because no maps support them other than Array and WMD, and the messed up zoom in they put in.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: GeneralGrant on July 01, 2012, 11:38:38 pm
I think sniping in all CoD's besides Black Ops and WaW was fairly easy. You never got much of an advantage at close range or anything but if you could get good at finding the middle of your crosshairs you could hit your shots pretty consistently. With WaW that's just a personal thing because a lot of times I would quickscope and the way the snipers scope in that way is awkward to me and makes me adjust my shots and miss a lot XD. With Black Ops the sway and hit detection took a long time to get used to. The maps really aren't too hard to snipe on you just have to change the way you snipe.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on July 02, 2012, 12:36:31 am
I'm a good sniper. Give me a sniper to get 1000 headshots with and I'll do it.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on July 02, 2012, 09:25:01 am
So am I, I can use anything. I understand when something is good or bad... the only working sniper in BO is the PSG.

inb4 L96scrubfanbois


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on July 02, 2012, 12:18:44 pm
I agree, all bolt action snipers are lame... Except for all of them. O0


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: MrPillow on July 02, 2012, 12:20:22 pm
I'm a good sniper. Give me a sniper to get 1000 headshots with and I'll do it.

I know a guy who got red tiger on all the cod4 snipers before hitting level 55.... the first time he ever played the game.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on July 02, 2012, 12:22:32 pm
My friend did that too.
Now we both have 1000 headshot title for RSASS and Dragunov.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Holy on July 02, 2012, 02:10:12 pm
If you think you're a good sniper, try using it in a competitive environment (when i say this, i mean when money is on the line). Stevy, he is a good sniper. He "hard scopes", "quick scopes", whatever is needed to win.

I don't think a montage is a clear reflection of how good a player is, but here is one just for an example.

Oh and everything in the video is in SnD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY4l_NKdzkc


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on July 02, 2012, 05:08:12 pm
Those are triples. It may be snd, but triples aren't anything.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: DoubleGunz on July 02, 2012, 05:35:45 pm
l o l


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Holy on July 02, 2012, 06:18:38 pm
Those are triples. It may be snd, but triples aren't anything.

"Triples" with a sniper in matches which a good amount of money on the line is superb, doing it with a SMG is an amazing feat in ANY real competition, let alone a sniper.

Listen. You have no idea what a "good" sniper is. Gloating about getting sniper kills in public matches is a complete joke. I didn't want to sound rude so i simply posted a video of what a good sniper is. But since you are still being stubborn about it:

Gloating about headshots on public matches is like gloating about beating a 2002 toyota camry in a street race.

The player that i showed you is viewed as one of the best snipers in CoD because he has won more money/competitions than any other CoD sniper, and is also the most well known. The best of the best youtube snipers wouldn't stand a chance.

Do you honestly still think you're an amazing sniper for getting a certain amount of kills in public matches which consist of 12-15 year old boys?


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: GeneralGrant on July 02, 2012, 06:19:02 pm
Triples in competetive are pretty big especially with a sniper when you're playing against AR's and SMG's. Plus I'm not gonna say PC is easier or harder than playing with a controller but I've played once and it took me a while to get a sniper kill in a promod game. The guy is obviously a good sniper.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on July 02, 2012, 06:22:20 pm
Those are triples. It may be snd, but triples aren't anything.

"Triples" with a sniper in matches which a good amount of money on the line is superb, doing it with a SMG is an amazing feat in ANY real competition, let alone a sniper.

Listen. You have no idea what a "good" sniper is. Gloating about getting sniper kills in public matches is a complete joke. I didn't want to sound rude so i simply posted a video of what a good sniper is. But since you are still being stubborn about it:

Gloating about headshots on public matches is like gloating about beating a 2002 toyota camry in a street race.

The player that i showed you is viewed as one of the best snipers in CoD because he has won more money/competitions than any other CoD sniper, and is also the most well known. The best of the best youtube snipers wouldn't stand a chance.

Do you honestly still think you're an amazing sniper for getting a certain amount of kills in public matches which consist of 12-15 year old boys?
Wait, was this a video of matches that are paid? Like MLG?
In that case, he's good.

But if this is regular snd games, no.
Not saying he's a bad sniper, but not smar fo making montages.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Holy on July 02, 2012, 06:32:42 pm
Those are triples. It may be snd, but triples aren't anything.

"Triples" with a sniper in matches which a good amount of money on the line is superb, doing it with a SMG is an amazing feat in ANY real competition, let alone a sniper.

Listen. You have no idea what a "good" sniper is. Gloating about getting sniper kills in public matches is a complete joke. I didn't want to sound rude so i simply posted a video of what a good sniper is. But since you are still being stubborn about it:

Gloating about headshots on public matches is like gloating about beating a 2002 toyota camry in a street race.

The player that i showed you is viewed as one of the best snipers in CoD because he has won more money/competitions than any other CoD sniper, and is also the most well known. The best of the best youtube snipers wouldn't stand a chance.

Do you honestly still think you're an amazing sniper for getting a certain amount of kills in public matches which consist of 12-15 year old boys?
Wait, was this a video of matches that are paid? Like MLG?
In that case, he's good.

But if this is regular snd games, no.
Not saying he's a bad sniper, but not smar fo making montages.

Those aren't MLG matches. Those are wayyy more competitive and with PLENTY more money on the line.

MLG is a joke compared to the LAN competitions that he takes part of.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on July 02, 2012, 06:38:32 pm
MLG was just an example. First thing that came to mind.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Holy on July 02, 2012, 07:31:54 pm
Yeah I know, i was just saying. =P


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Baw on July 02, 2012, 07:36:40 pm
*Awaiting the days until a video game will be part of the Olympics.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Ps358 on July 06, 2012, 01:02:41 pm
I think it might in the future... :-\


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Autumn1194 on July 06, 2012, 02:35:23 pm
Black ops is not even good


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: MrPillow on July 06, 2012, 03:08:37 pm
Black ops is not even good

like you would know since you never get on :D


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Autumn1194 on July 06, 2012, 03:11:21 pm
because I'm so good. It's too easy!  : D


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: MrPillow on July 06, 2012, 03:13:43 pm
we oughta get some WU 2v2 or 3v3s going. Me Jabba Turd and KReater 2v2d for a few hours the other day on CoD4 and it was the most fun I have had in that game in awhile.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Baw on July 06, 2012, 03:55:58 pm
Black ops is not even good


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Holy on July 06, 2012, 04:10:11 pm
we oughta get some WU 2v2 or 3v3s going. Me Jabba Turd and KReater 2v2d for a few hours the other day on CoD4 and it was the most fun I have had in that game in awhile.

I would love to do that but no one ever wants to.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Keihan on July 06, 2012, 04:56:31 pm
^ I hate small games like 2v2s. I'd be down for 3v3s/4v4s any day, though.


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Paranoid71 on July 06, 2012, 05:16:05 pm
Black ops is not even good

to think i used to think you were cool  :D


Title: Re: this is the 2nd best cod ever
Post by: Autumn1194 on July 06, 2012, 05:22:18 pm
Black ops is not even good

to think i used to think you were cool  :D

I'm too school for cool. sorry D :