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General Discussion / Entertainment / The All-Seeing Eye / Re: * * * The Official GOOD MORNING CREW Thread * * *
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on: February 27, 2017, 10:17:48 pm
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If you're going to be running CPU-intensive programs, it's not great, even for a mobile processor. With two physical cores and two logical cores at 2.50 GHz clock speed, it's performing worse than a Core i3-6100 @ 3.70 GHz (2 physical cores and 2 logical cores), despite being more expensive (granted, the latter is for desktops so it should have better performance in general, but even so...).
Without knowing what kind of software you'll need to run it's hard to make a recommendation, and the i7 CPU in that build may very well be sufficient, but something like an Intel Core i5-3230M @ 2.60GHz may also be sufficient (only slightly less powerful than the i7 in that laptop), and that costs like $90.
Granted most of the i5 laptops I'm seeing on Newegg are the 6200U which are meh, so that i7 build might be as good as you can get right now.
Thank you for the insight, my good sir. I'll be running FL studio 12 on it with some intensive VSTs. I'd actually prefer a PC as opposed to laptop. Only problem I'm having right now is budget since I just bought a surface pro 4 and can't justify another big purchase. I'm budgeting about $300-$450 or so and not opposed to building my own if it saves money. From their site: FL Studio will work on Windows XP upward. We recommend Windows 10 64 Bit, Windows 8 64 Bit or Windows 7 64 Bit. Note: Windows 8 or 10 is required if you want to use more than the dual-touch available with Windows 7.
Specifications (in descending order of importance)
CPU: The CPU is the primary factor in your ability to run FL Studio with large complex projects. Yes FL Studio utilizes multi-core CPUs but more is not better. Read the section: 'The logic of audio processing' in the manual to learn why. In light of this, the best value for performance is usually to be had 2-3 levels down from the top models. As of 2017 these are Intel i5 and i7 Intel processors, specifically the i7-7700K, i7-4790K, i7-6800K, i7-6700K, i7-5820K, i7-4770K. i5-4960K or i5-5675C, i5-6600K, i5-4670K, i5-4670K or i5-4690. The overall winners are: i7-7700K & i7-4790K (these CPU have: 1. Reasonable prices < $500, 2. Reasonable heat output - 88-95W TDP and 3. fast single-core performance, win-win-win). Moving to the 'top of the range' CPUs will increase prices by 200%-400% with no improvement in FL Studio performance. We don't recommend spending more than $500 on a CPU! Somewhere between $250 to $400 is usually the sweet spot. Choose on your own - Search for your CPU's performance score on CPU Benchmark. Here's how we grade multi-core scores for CPUs with 6 or less cores - Weak: Less than 3,999. Medium: 4000 to 6,999. Strong: 7000 to 9,999. Very strong more than 10,000. HOWEVER fast single-core performance is still key when audio processing. So you should look for the fastest single-core performance scores, in a package with at least 4 or more physical cores. For example: An 8 core CPU (14,400) with a single core score of 1800 is less well suited to music production than a 4 core CPU (12,000) with a single core score of 2600, since much of what happens with audio-processing can't be computed in parallel. Psychology - When comparing benchmarks, a 10% performance gain is 'just noticeable', you won't be impressed with this sort of improvement, so don't bother. 20-30% increases in speed are generally needed before a CPU feels noticably faster in use (for a while). Of course, the bigger the percentage jump, the happier you will be. CPU Laptops: The same principles apply as above. Aim for a CPU benchmark score of 6,000+ from a quad-core CPU. Two great laptop CPUs are the i7–4720HQ and i7-4810MQ. Chose your CPU then go looking for laptops with that spec. CPU performance reality check - Show respect for your CPU and don't throw 30+ high-cpu load plugins at it and then wonder why it chokes. Audio processing, as performed by DAW software, is one of the most CPU intensive tasks done in real-time on computers today. It's more CPU intensive than 3D games, that offload a lot of work to the video card GPU. Each audio stream needs real-time calculation of at least 44100 samples PER second multiplied by the number of plugins you are running multiplied by their own internal shenanigans. But, all hope is not lost, limitations breed creativity, work with what you have and rejoice in the democratization of modern music production.
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General Discussion / Entertainment / The All-Seeing Eye / Re: Red/Autumn - Destiny
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on: January 09, 2017, 04:05:15 pm
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What's up red? Ironically, I do have it but I haven't played a game since last February and that stint only lasted 2 weeks. Before that it was over a year since I touched a system. Maybe within the next month or so I'll be on pretty consistently. I miss my old mediocre, gaming life. LOL
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